Baconjack

Nah the restraints on those rides are awful if you’re either tall or fat or both. I’ve been on Sledgehammer and even if you’re below the max height limit the restraints dig into your shoulders and have an enormous amount of clearance between the restraint and the seat because of their design. I almost didn’t feel safe on my ride. Goliath on the other hand is far more comfortable. Not to mention the height restriction for zamperla models are far higher. You’d be looking at yet another 140cm ride for a zamperla model (its 132 at Luna park but would probably go up to 140 on the coast). Whereas claw and Goliath are at 120, far more accommodating for different types of guests and body sizes because of the lap bar it uses

I’m pretty sure that land in question is not being used by the park it’s all allocated to the studios but feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. And even if it is, if you were to put a coaster in there (which they will need in 6-8 years time) you’d have to either pull down the building, or re use it as a queue/station or extend it out for something indoors (both requiring major alterations) If you read what I said I already nominated a use of that space so what you’re saying is very confusing.

How is doomsday not on its last legs? It is barely open, and when it is, it runs at a third of its power because if it doesn't it shits itself. Once flash & wizard of oz open and scooby re opens that thing is for sure gone, with the strip down and repaint deadline quickly approaching. Only reason they are keeping it around now is to keep the ride count up while other things around the park are being built or renovated. Lantern is time limited as well. I think it lasts a little longer than 3-5 years, I'd say it goes either shortly before or shortly after the next major gets built in 6-7 years time. As for superman I think village will be looking very closely at how the two LSM conversions go, if they are reliable i think it's more likely it gets that revamp over being removed altogether. As for the showcase building the park has no room to expand so at the end of the day they'll use whatever space is available. The land doomsday & showcase occupy lend themselves well to a major wild west coaster to complement West, and any non superhero ride is always a plus. Lantern's plot is too small as it stands and doesn't allow for much. As for the other attractions you mention: Walkthrough? The old intencity building exists (you know where there used to be one) Dark ride? Justice league (and the junior driving school building exists too), you can arguably fit scooby in this category while you're there. Show/theatre? Stunt driver and roxy already fill that need

I love the idea of a 4d free spin in Australia but the likelihood that village buys something from s&s again is pretty much zero Obviously doomsday is on its last legs and we don’t know how long showcase will be open for. I’d say any green lantern replacement uses that combined plot of land as it’s quite a significant space for a coaster. There’s more than adequate space at green lantern for a flat ride there though, you could easily plop vortex or something else there down the track

Warner bros owns the trademark for movie world itself so yep so I’d say it’s under a similar arrangement in this case, the categories it is filed in seem to match up as well

Trademark filings have been made for the names of the WOO coasters. Kansas Twister for the family boomerangs and Flight of the Wicked Witch for the suspended family coaster presumably https://search.ipaustralia.gov.au/trademarks/search/view/2411823?s=066cfa98-d7a1-4526-a4ee-6f069d7b2f33&p=2 https://search.ipaustralia.gov.au/trademarks/search/view/2411822?s=066cfa98-d7a1-4526-a4ee-6f069d7b2f33&p=2

I think it’s a bit different. Leviathan’s needs are very different to anything else Village has so they’ll stagger it out throughout the year to look after the wood throughout the year as opposed to 2 months in a nondescript off peak period. Also Sea World’s rides are much younger on average than Movie World. Most of the rides going down for 2 months are old (or getting repainted in the case of Rivals)

Well to be fair being a ride op is not exactly the most well paid job and quite a few people wouldn't really care about the job, which is completely understandable given the pay and the fact most would be doing it during uni to earn cash before moving onto greener pastures. Having idiot guests definitely exacerbates the problem but I digress, in those kinds of jobs you need to maximise morale where possible, have the right kinds of managers who don't treat the joint as some sort of a power trip, and create room for staff to build relationships with one another. I used to work for a business in the same industry as the parks, was paid quite poorly and had to deal with entitled guests and it burned me out from time to time.

Time for a strip down and repaint? I mean it’s hit that 10 year mark I’m pretty sure, could explain the length

Like re using Lethal Weapon Chinatown alley? Most logical solution imo but it seems to be wishful thinking based on concept art. Before someone goes on about F&B needing the space for temporary storage there’s a many other areas to put these things that doesn’t necessitate using an area that was designed to be public access

To be fair they do have that sign printing machine they’ve made some good use out of

As mentioned by others I’d say most of the people visiting at this time of year have pre bought tickets prior to going up north. So they need to go within a span of usually a few days they don’t have unlimited time to visit the parks. Either way the problem is very manageable. It’s not by letting less people in but by improving what you do day to day to lower wait times. I like how in your post you used those quotes and missed this one: What excuses are there for these? There are about 6 months in the year village could use to complete train rebuilds and get them online for peak time. Back in the day both major coasters would run a 2 train service from Boxing Day to early feb, and allowed guests to do their own seatbelts rather having the 2 station attendants doing a whole train full of them. You’d figure if 2 of your majors were down at the busiest time of the year (with another being replaced) managers would figure out a way to churn through people an hour on each ride efficiently. That means training their staff based on how Universal does it, or by creating a culture that values efficiency.

There's bigger fish to fry at the park. Dreamworld only have so much money in the budget, I'd rather that money go towards a renovation of Motocoaster rather than re-opening a ride that's got 6 months left at most before it gets moved.

If that’s true then what is the point of making the effort to re open it then if it’s all going to get demo’d in a few months? Reckon we might see vintage cars closed until Rivertown opens

As pointed out by other people waiting more than 2 hours for tower of terror was normal 10 years ago. Same goes for Superman before Rivals got built

To be fair if scooby and green lantern was open the crowds would be much more dispersed. Everyone likes to rag on dreamworld for having a low ride count but at the moment down the road isn’t offering exactly a lot either, you have a major that’s going to be down until 2025 and another one that they struggle to keep open and isn’t open currently either. A giant line for doomsday is quite sad to look at really but that’s a consequence of poor planning. Would be just another summer school holidays day at movie world if both were open otherwise which is not good by any standard either. You can say “Oh village’s reputation will slide” and that’s a fair argument for locals but at the end of the day most visitors are interstate and will go to movie world anyway, or go to dreamworld as well. That’s why village can get away with this kind of stuff even if it means ripping people off, because they’re usually only visiting once a year at most.

Gold Coaster is no longer listed as down on the website so potentially given both share the same grid

Yeah in 10 years or so when it will most likely need it again hence why I said

Just to set some boundaries on which land is allocated to the main park (as per the recent zoning changes to the park), this would most likely rule out big brother & blue lagoon as they have been rezoned for mixed use. All said there's still 3 key spots around the park for development: Rocky hollow spot Trolls village/thunderbolt/flowrider spot Wipeout/chill out zone spot And there's also a few rides reaching end of life in the next 10 years (gold coaster, gingys gliders, potentially claw & giant drop) and a ride in need of change (motocoaster) With all this considered here's what I would say for each spot (in no particular order except for the last bit) Family ride on the rocky hollow spot - a water coaster that's more flume than coaster (think journey to atlantis) would be really nice here as any water rides in the future need to be differentiated enough from thunder river to avoid comparisons (but that goes without saying) Major coaster in the trolls village/thunderbolt/flowrider combined plot of land. Call it thunderbolt 2 if you want it to, would love to see a small scale dive coaster on that site (think dr diabolical's cliffhanger or iron menace), Australian first, crowd pleaser, within dreamworld's budget (as of late) and ultra reliable. Ticks just about every box and worth the price tag Gold coaster inevitably removed and used for WWW. I'd say it's probably got 10 years max left in it. The land it sits on is prime real estate for WWW expansion, could easily fit a lazy river in there as that's the only gap really left in that lineup. All said though you could easily put the dive coaster in this spot & put the lazy river in the thunderbolt plot if you wanted to properly flesh out WWW (as was planned several years ago) Flat on the wipeout spot - i like the idea of the nebulaz. Would love a screaming swing in australia but is not happening in that spot because of clearance issues re: claw and tailspin Motocoaster renovation to integrate it into rivertown - we'll probably see this sooner rather than later I think they just need to see how such a project fits into the budget. For later down the track - Giant Drop is approaching 30 years old and Claw is nearly 20 years old. Dreamworld should be realistically throwing money at Giant Drop if they need to in 10 years as it is their one prestige attraction. If that necessitates removing the old ride system and building another one on the same tower - then so be it (they've already done the numbers for a falcon's fury conversion so it's possible). Realistically Claw has about 10 years left in it, I think this is a straightforward like-for-like replacement with a new generation gyro swing (such as Goliath at adventure world). Further gingy's gliders will need to be replaced by then, so use the opportunity while it's gone to rip out the tower station and expand dreamland.

Will explain again: Sky voyager - delayed multiple times and opened nine months after expected timeline Steel taipan - delayed and opened a year after expected timeline (You could blame Covid for this one but no one was for New Atlantis) Giant Drop renovation - delayed a few times (from memory was meant to be completed end of 2022 could be wrong though) Years is a bit of a stretch from me but the point still stands regardless. If we’re taking the piss out of village for failing to stick to timelines (rightfully so) then it’s only fair to point out this is standard practice for parks on the coast even if we finally got some rides open on time for once.

"Past few" Yeah sure two of their biggest post-2016 additions have been delivered years after their original opening timeline. This isn't even discounting stuff like giant drop's renovation which was pushed back consistently as well. Bit of a recency bias showing here.

Can’t they not build at that height? I was under the impression that sea world has to build things within a stricter limit (whatever council mandates for the spit)

Haven’t visited but it and Japan are the first countries on my list when I’ve got enough money to travel. Something I would mention is that if you want to visit Everland I’d advise travelling later on in the year as their major coaster (t express) is allegedly going to be down until April/May

You’d think maybe a drain in that section of the queue which collects water and recycles it on the water jets would reduce water costs & eliminate this problem entirely?

After their last ride they built for them came within a bees dick of killing people I highly doubt Village would buy anything from S&S again