DaptoFunlandGuy

This thing cost $25. The platform offered plenty of discounts and offers that were worth the money you paid. You said so yourself I don't see why they should have to offer you even more value just to end the program. And given what they did to memberships, you shouldn't have expected them to.

It's probably staff costs and keeping the wage bill low. It's probably staff costs and keeping the wage bill low. It's probably staff costs and keeping the wage bill low. It's probably staff costs and keeping the wage bill low. It's probably staff costs and keeping the wage bill low. I feel like we've pretty much been saying this for a while. they might be missing some business, but how much would have contributed towards extra revenue if many of those folk are passholders anyway? Pool and plant operating costs go up, staff costs go up. you need more cleaners, more gate staff, more F&B and Retail staff, plus the lifeguards and other team members that go with operating the park 7 days a week. On days where attendance isn't assured, that's expensive. I think they've taken the view that they can afford to not compete with WNW in the offseason, and while the school dates are a bit of a misstep, overall, there is no guarantee they'd make money this week opening the park up, once all costs are accounted for. I agree with you but

Now that you mention it, I seem to recall Flying Dinosaur had this type of mechanical secondary restraint whereby a pin locked into the restraint after the restraint was checked.

Last day of School is 13th of December and according to the calendar they're open every day from the 13th. I realise most schools are supervision only for the last week and many are informally breaking end of this week, so possibly a little oversight from them there, but the date they've chosen lining up with school holidays pretty much proves it was an intentional decision. There's lots of things our parks do that we disagree with - but that's just our opinions and doesn't make them wrong.

Yeah i'd like to see Dreamworld's hours longer - but the comparison to Rivals is appropriate. If the park's new hotness and lunch takes you 50% of the time it takes to ride MW's 7 year old coaster, do you really need the park to operate a longer day?

I know that, for MACK at least, the seatbelt thing is a manufacturer requirement - this is because if a seatbelt is done up prior to ops check, then their 'push-pull' check is only testing the seatbelt, not the hydraulic locking mechanism. Operations push-pull on the harness to ensure it is down and locked, and then do up the seatbelt as it is only the supplemental restraint. I don't think Intamin is about to revise their procedures this late in the accelerator game, and judging by other reports, it wasn't a requirement at other times. It is plausible that the operator who we're discussing here was having a busy day and accidentally spieled their Rivals spiel instead of their Superman spiel. it's easy to do. They possibly got ribbed for it by the other ops after dispatch. They aren't completely unnecessary, and I believe we've discussed the superman seatbelt previously - the receiver has wiring going to it. Presumably ops can tell if a seatbelt isn't done up. It may only be in the station, but it could also be at the launch track too For Rivals at least, see above. As for the view that "we did it for years, so why change now" - that sort of thinking leads to killing people. If you identify a risk or experience an incident which leads you to review your current processes and decide to change those processes to reduce or eliminate that risk, you should. When you don't, you end up with a home-made ride built in house that relies on one operator to oversee massive amounts of moving parts, with failing infrastructure causing regular shutdowns, and a history of the exact same incident occurring in the past, without taking any actions to prevent possible fatalities that did unfortunately eventuate. Putting it all very simply - All rides have to have a redundant restraint system. Many manufacturers ship their attractions with a dual hydraulic lock - essentially two separate cylinders that both lock, so if one fails, the other will hold. That qualifies as a redundant restraint system in most of the world. Australia however considers that the secondary restraint has to be of a different type to the primary restraint - ie: they can't both be hydraulic locks. The reason why is because of a perception that the potential failure to one hydraulic cylinder could theoretically happen to both cylinders simultaneously given that the equipment is the same age, is put through the same forces, is maintained by the same people using the same replacement parts, etc etc. For example (and this is just a napkin hypothetical, i'm not a hydraulic expert), it is possible that contaminated hydraulic fluid could enter both systems and block a valve or develop a slow leak or similar. While extraordinarily rare for that to happen twice and at the same time, it's possible. Having an alternate locking method that can't fail in the same way as the primary restraint is technically safer as something that can cause one system to fail is unlikely to cause the other to fail.

I don't think most of us can follow what you're on about some times. I think what you're saying is if it shared DW assets, they could open it on a weekday? It still costs the same amount to staff the park and in the off season, they've shown it clearly can't be supported...

To be fair, websites have a knack of being outdated. Leviathan Construction Blog | Village Roadshow Theme Parks (it's good to see they finally took the page down more than a year after the ride officially opened). What you put forward was an interpretation of a shareholder document that others interpreted differently. There was no other public source of information. What we're seeing suggests you were right about that particular interpretation but based on that document and with no other internal source of information, most folk interpreted differently to you, and the information was open for them to make that interpretation.

This close I would have expected them to start pushing a specific opening date. they really must be going down to the wire, but the message still says 2024, so they've only got 32 days left. 10 of those are weekends, and 2 are public holidays. So they really only have 21 working days before the year is over.

I don't think a single night is going to kill Carnivale (though really, Sea World shouldn't host Carnivale - it should go back to MW where it belongs), but I would like to see DW do more night events rather than just night market. kinda paints them into a corner with the markets. they have to keep consistent dates to keep the food vendors coming, but they're then hamstrung on being able to host night events on their big attendance days...

So - I went to: Park Info > Opening Hours > Set calendar to any date in January > "January Highlights" I've just gone back to the site to screenshot and it's already removed, so that was probably something they weren't ready to release yet! haha.

yeah, especially with new attractions slated to open in both the big dry parks, offering an extended trading hours over the summer holidays just makes sense. I see that Movie World has actually confirmed that attractions will operate for the times listed above. The park has previously 'opened' at 9:30 but attractions did not operate until 10, so this change is a step in the right direction for sure and kudos to MW for offering the extended hours. The park does list that "queue lines may close earlier to allow attractions to finish in line with park closing times" and this always catches people out who don't realise many of the more popular rides will be off the table much earlier than the advertised close time. (I would love to see all our parks roster 'closing' staff an extra hour or so, so that they don't have to close the queues early, but this would be a massive extra daily cost to the park and i'm just an enthusiast who wants too much.) As for Dreamworld, they do have night markets on as usual 27th and 28th December from 5-9pm, and their operating hours list 'After Dark' on January 18th from 6pm to 10pm After Dark | Dreamworld though there is no information on ticket pricing, i'm assuming it is an additional cost given the opening is an hour later than regular park close.

Does it count if it isn't running?

You will need to visit the photo kiosk in park - in MovieWorld it's on the right as you walk under the archway. Give them the code and they'll add it to your photo pass. Photos aren't kept permanently though so you'll want to do it sooner rather than later. If you aren't visiting the park for a few days, it may help to contact guest services by email \ online to see if they can assist you, though this isn't guaranteed.

There are of course going to be outliers in any sort of analysis. Most students do some sort of work that fits around studies, and many who don't work are still eligible for Youth Allowance. Foreign students are (legally) limited to 20 hours per week, many others work casual or part time, weekends and night trading and some classes keep unusual hours. We could go on for months and never cover everyone's exact specific circumstances. So it's not a big thing to note, but it is a note worth pointing out for anyone reading. Wait... I did. Likewise the retail worker can also do better than shown too, but again kept the examples fairly simple for a base level comparison. Sorry I should have mentioned that. Oh yeah I did.

Yeah you're not wrong, though the generally does a lot of heavy lifting. There's a lot of assumptions in the scenario, and the retail worker could just as easily take that experience into salaried employment making far more than what is shown here. But for the sake of completeness for those who won't crunch the numbers themselves (and thankfully I didn't ditch the spreadsheet just yet!) Other assumptions I didn't factor include penalty rates and overtime, so the retail guy can absolutely pull further ahead. Chances are the graduate is putting in more than a 38 hour work week for no additional remuneration in some fields too - swings and roundabouts really. Assuming 12% super, and a simple 10% earnings rate on your super (Super Guarantee legislation calculates earnings on unpaid super at a simple 10% rate and I don't really care to look at long term industry earnings rates to be bothered using any other rates - the point is they've both got the same rate, so apples with apples as they say). By the end of the 13 years in the previous example, the retail worker is still ahead on super. Given the rapidly increasing salary of the graduate, it won't take long for the graduate to overtake, but again for the critics - this is a simplistic example - with 6-8 years experience the graduate is potentially climbing the ladder too. The graduate is still 6-7 grand behind the retail pleb, plus they still owe $113k in HECS to boot. If I keep everything the same from that point on - (let's say the graduate has topped out on salary at age 30) then it takes until they're nearly 42 years old before the HECS is paid off. By that time they've got an extra $180k in super. Short of things like covid stimulus, most people won't be able to touch their super for another few decades though, so Super is definitely the long game, but the short term sacrifice in super earnings does pay off - IF you succeed in your chosen field of study.

Depends on a lot of factors - including the person's drive and capability. Both the worker and the student can do worse, but they can also do better. I've spitballed this with google, but gone with fairly reliable sources like Fair Work, ATO websites, and some recruitment websites discussing graduate salaries etc. I've made a couple of assumptions, and erred on the conservative side when it came to indexation. Uni Graduate Assumes a four year full time degree with no supplemental employment, working on the average degree cost per year from Canstar Blue. I'm aware that I haven't factored in any centrelink payments as the whole thing gets messy offering up options for whether the student lives with parents or away from home, whether their parents earn too much money ($60k is the lower level for income reduction) so obviously the 'rolling earnings' is the worst possible figure possible. I used real indexation rates for the last 4 years, but the average of 4% per year wasn't historically accurate so I estimated a 2% ongoing indexation. Earnings for graduates varied according to Talent.com, but seemed to indicate a 10% growth per year with experience and promotion. Retail worker Assumes an 18 year old fresh out of high school with no prior employment experience - entry rate as a Junior Retail Assistant level 1, increasing with age to 21, and increasing retail level to maximum pay rate at level 8. I topped them out at the max retail pay rate and assumed they stayed in that job from that point. Naturally the award wage would increase with enterprise bargaining but there's already too many assumptions so i've left it as is. TL:DR Average four year uni degree can cost $131k before indexation In the same four years your retail worker has earned $183k Graduate starting salaries mean HECS\HELP repayments begin immediately upon entering the workforce It takes 13 years out of high school before the Uni Graduate has cumulatively earned more than the retail worker At that time, the graduate has paid $52k in repayments, but has only paid off $30k of the principal, due to indexation. There's still 80% of their HECS\HELP debt remaining - which could take 10 or more years to pay off You could absolutely do better than this. But you could also do far worse. Everyone's mileage may vary and end of the day the figures below don't mean shit in the real world - just a fun little spreadsheet exercise to get the mind moving on a monday morning.

To be fair, they were still closed 'without notice' which is the issue people have - not getting a chance to ride one last time, etc etc. The park knew they were going to remove it and instead of announcing it and giving people the opportunity to 'say goodbye', to give fans of the attraction a little 'send off'... They Kingda Ka'd it.

Yeah there's conflicting reports coming from various sources about how far off Rivertown actually is, but all the official messaging of the park has remained targeted on a December holidays opening. Just have to see what comes out - they've got a lot of work to do, but all the bones appear to be in place. Fleshing things out can be done a lot quicker if everything else is in place.

I was in Airlie not long ago - it definitely could use that sort of attraction.

por que no los dos?

Movie World is getting absolutely review bombed today by a bunch of German visitors - did I miss an invasion or something? I feel like they could have managed their expectations better if they'd done a little research beforehand.

Wanna know what they could have done better? Utilising the original pathway for that ride plot by opening up chinatown alley again, thereby having the Oz entrance right off mainstreet with a beautiful 'yellow brick road' themed path all the way back before the big reveal of the Emerald city IN FRONT of you (instead of behind as you enter). By the looks of the latest vloggers posts like Jaggs, they're opening up the path from scooby and themeing it green, it wouldn't have taken much extra effort and the rainbow entrance could have been off main street instead of next to Superman's brake run....

Yeah Village hasn't offered discounts of any substance in some time, other than in conjunction with ExperienceOZ promotions and the like (and even then theres a catch), but they do have a habit of 'throwing in extras' like a photo pass or loading it up with a bunch of "value" in the form of upcharges - discounts on an animal adventure, seats at outback spectacular or free membership (lol) at TopGolf. "Packed with over $500 of extra value" is the headline, but when you do the math, it'd cost you an extra $3000 to get the full value of. It's great if you're planning a big once in a long time family trip and doing everything, but not really of any use to the locals that have been there, done that.

I think LSM\LIM needs to come a bit further - I'm not sure the hydraulic track is long enough to accommodate the conversion, and there's no way they can fit a swing launch spike in there...