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So help me god if they cock up one of the last remaining Disney-clone facades i'll go bananas. I think it'd give old mate John Longhurst a heart attack - part of the reason why Dreamworld looks like a dog's breakfast is because they keep torching everything old and replacing it with cardboard cut-outs and painted concrete.4 points
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Part of what made Imax work so well at DW compared to other installations is that the facade hid how big the cinema is. I feel i-ride would be the same, soarin' as good a ride as it is doesn't surprise you because you can see it's a massive building going in, but adding something huge in what from the outside looks small and unassuming makes it all the more impressive. Having the facade be big and bold would ruin part of it for my taste.2 points
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Just continuing on this and sidetracking, I think a lot of people aren't aware just how much of Florida's Disney World (specifically Magic Kingdom) played a part in Main Street's design. Magic Kingdom's. Dreamworld's back in 1981. Dreamworld's (in 2018). Magic Kingdom's. Dreamworld's. Magic Kingdom's. Dreamworld's (in 1981). Dreamworld's (in 2018). You'd think you'd only find amazing stores like this only in the Magic Kingdom. But actually Dreamworld did cool stuff like this too. Here's Disneyland's Market House from the air. Here's Dreamworld. From the ground back in 1956 at Disneyland. From the ground back in 2012-ish at Dreamworld. And this is what Disney have done to theirs. Now i'm not saying Dreamworld needs to somehow procure the money Disney has to continually drop millions on facade additions, that's unreasonable and even John Longhurst recognised that was impossible, but I do think management has done a lot of bad with the money they had by tacking on cheap lights, painting facades garish colours and in the case of the main entrance, actually knocking out a part of the building to put in a bland, cream, textured wall with barred windows. I mean talk about a jarring and hostile first impression. Disney have looked after what they had and now, some several decades later, a thousand tiny improvements have resulted in untouchable quality and finish. That's not to say that was never the case either with Dreamworld - Village Oval is a fantastic example of an addition where the facades and buildings were simply second to none. This was Village Oval. It got a lot worse. But it did get better. But we did lose amazing little buildings like this. Sometimes I feel like just they seem to get it wrong more then they do get it right, and that's where people irk up, because when you destroy something the expectation is that whatever replaces it is as good, if not better, and that hasn't been the case for so very many things at Dreamworld. Despite that, refurbishments like Green Bean, the ice cream parlour & the Dough Bros end of the plaza are all actually really well great examples in Main Street of bringing something into the 21st century without cocking it up completely (although in the case of the central plaza, removing the chandelier in the main tower and putting lino over the Dreamworld mosaic are both sins in their own right.) The Dreamworks area is another example of bringing a higher level of quality into the mix and is really great overall and Tiger Island is dead set the park's biggest asset and provided you ignore the gigantic tin cage down the end that shouldn't exist it's honestly one of the world's best Tiger exhibits. In the case of Green Bean as a Main Street facade example, when they renovated it they used softer, more realistic colours, the interior aesthetic is muted but fun and detailed, and there's plenty of nice places to sit - that kind of execution is how the entirety of the park is how the whole park should be in my mind and that's why folks like me are so judgey - it's not because we're anal theme park nerds, it's that Dreamworld used to be shit hot, and since Ardent came along a lot of things have fallen well below the bar that John Longhurst had set. With all of that said, bulldozing the Dreamworld Cinema facade would be an utter shame and frankly speaking I doubt there's anything better you could put in its place given just how iconic the design itself is.2 points
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There is a new roaming character in the western area at MW. This photo is also stolen from TPSN2 points
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Safety officers have been doing final checks of all of the rides that will operate at this years Ekka. (at least for the cameras anyway. </sarcasm)2 points
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Can't wait to see the Dreamworld Tower finally painted.2 points
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This image I think summarises the park today. They’ve taken the old stuff, and ruined it or removed the magic that was there. They could have adult out those doors in the middle, and yet they are too the side. And they probably could have even left the original lower facade, and just widened the door to make flow easier. But no... they did this1 point
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I really hope they do keep the facade as is, and it will really ruin the area if they change it. The only they should do to it is repaint it (with the same colour) and change the signage. And hopefully that bit of facade at the top they’ve removed is just for access and they replace the timber and it matches what was there I’m wondering if they will transform the the old Boost Juice store to the exit, and the main entrance and queue area will be inside. I also hope they don’t add queue posts outside the building and keep the area clean as is now. If the queues become that long, then set up a temporary queue area outside to the right, but that’s it1 point
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It's definitely for I-Ride, it's been spoken about to death in some other threads. For those unfamiliar - Dreamworld's IMAX/Cinema now i-ride facade is seen in Walt Disney World, Disneyland Paris & Tokyo Disneyland. And here's ours - spot which one is well maintained: And here is how it looked on opening day, 1981. For all the marketing copy they spent on justifying not spending the same amount of money as Movie World on new rides because they're so focussed on "nostalgia" it then would be hypocritical and down-right tone deaf to destroy one of the last furnishings that exude high some semblance of quality design and overall planning / theming / integration. Let us pray that is not the case. Also worth nothing - Dreamworld's facade facsimile may not be as lush as the three above but here's the thing - every single one Disney's facades has been refurbished over time and subsequently improved upon to arrive at this point now where they all look top notch. By comparison, when Dreamworld painted the entrance building they opted to paint over almost all of the windows. If that's not half-arsed, contemptuous and ignorant of why the place was so successful in the first place I dunno what is.1 point
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I used to work with a Grace who married a guy with the last name Grace, and became Grace Grace. Does anyone else agree these should already be in place? Like seriously, do rides get operated by untrained and incompetent staff now?Are there not already inspection processes in place? Do the parks not already have safety management systems? Also i hope there's log books in place now too? So what exactly are they changing? This sounds like a whole lot of hot air about things that are already in place.. Are they planning to now actually inspect and enforce these things? To me it reads like - we had all these requirements in place, but basically on an honour system, so now we'll actually do our jobs and enforce them! Also the paint stripping thing is a bit of a joke - this is the exact reason for NDT. If this is acceptable for offshore subsea equipment to have NDT without stripping paint, then should be more than sufficient for amusement rides. Honestly the scariest part of these recent ride failures is that the processes and procedures that are already in place weren't being followed. That's the biggest lapse here, and the hardest thing to enforce/stop recurrences of. The only way i can see it happening is actual penalties for the management in charge of enforcing these, and third party inspections by approved government inspectors.1 point
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This is incorrect. Sweet Treats and Gotham have Post-mix guns. All outlets are capable of doing refills of post-mix excluding Village Bean and the Frozen Coke stand. (News Stand can do refills when the refill station isn't open too)1 point
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A couple of shipping containers and a small crane were in the fenced off area outside of dreamworld this evening1 point
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For someone who tries so hard to show everyone how correct he is, you really relish in being utterly wrong, don't you? Although Dreamworld lists the area on the map as one precinct, the park map shows BOTH ABC Kids World AND Wiggles World - including both logos in the directory and superimposed on the park map itself. I do hope one of these days you actually fact check your mouth occasionally before opening it... but you probably won't.1 point
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I am not an engineer but my best guess is either for rainwater drainage from the land around (and north) of it, or they have an exciting new Mosquito Breeding exhibit planned for 2019.1 point
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I'll absolutely concede (and did in the article) that the sheer breadth of rides and hip IP in one place aimed at young children is unmatched. Quality and presentation is another matter, though hardly relevant to a four year old so long as they're on something that spins or hugging a character they recognise. When looked at through the prism of a two-park (DW/WWW) versus three/four-park (MW, SW, WNW + PC) annual pass I do firmly believe the offering for every age bracket doesn't stack up in quantity nor quality and at the end of the day, but of course there's a lot to be said for for the geographical/all-in-one convenience of Dreamworld. The main question is whether there's a sound business model for a theme park of the size of Dreamworld to only be pretty good with young kids' attractions. I think there's a misnomer that these are family attractions; in my view they appeal to young families and little else, and there's a reason you don't see Disney or other operators relying heavily on them... because they're not money spinners in the same way that true "3 to 93" family attractions are.1 point
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I only disagree with: I firmly believe that if you have young children, Dreamworld is your best choice of a park to visit in terms of ride selection.1 point
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I'd like to take a moment to thank these protesters. Thank you for purchasing a ticket and thereby supporting the park you claim to hate. I'm glad your money will go towards ensuring the continued safety and well-being of these Dolphins at Sea World.1 point
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