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  1. 13 points
    @Rollercoaster_Lover , this is obviously you because you are the only person who spells Green Lantern as Greenlauntern
  2. 11 points
    Yeah I vote for clog the shit out of this thread with info. More the merrier. I cant believe there is still the vibe of defending Dreamworld on here. They have literally done everything not to do, much all tied back go saving a buck. Gaol is where much of the management should be, which is still a lot better than Dead! Which let's not forget us where 4 innocent people are because this park cut corners, went against industry practices and tried to save money as a priority over YOUR safety!
  3. 8 points
    Got to be kidding. They literally have nowhere to hide. If they fired someone for a safety breech, evidently water levels are a very serious issue. If that wasnt drummed into their staff following dismissal of the employee, they need a huge kick up the arse. I was willing to give everyone the benefit of doubt and not point any blame at people, but it looks like both operations and maintenance department supervisors/heads/leaders have a lot to answer for. Its starting to look like their employees might even have a case to take the company to court for failing to provide adequate training and a safe working environment. Keeping everyone in the dark, withholding information, shit like that is the worst kind of micromanaging. It robs all employees the chance to learn from past mistakes and fails to acknowledge or address any issues that might save the company from repeating those same mistakes again. I literally cannot understand why you wouldnt use past incidences as a learning tool. Aside from it giving you a chance to update the control systems to close any loop holes in safety; You have everything at your disposal for personel training. A real incident to examine, the people, the ride it happened on. You could literally walk newly trained operators through and explain not only the events and proceedures to make sure that never happens again, but also drive home the importance of the safety aspect, right while they are standing there. It's just incredible.
  4. 7 points
    I think that is a very hard line to take, and I would argue - inappropriate at best. The 57 second timeline, from what I have read, is the time from the pump failure, until the time the raft flipped. I've seen this style of ride in startup and shutdown, although i've never seen one operating on half it's pumps. I can imagine, given the time it takes the water level to drop in a total shutdown, that the shutdown of only one pump would make the water level drop a much less significant observation. Basically, with all the water rushing through the station area, guest communications, and mechanical noises, It is doubtful that one pump stopping would be all that noticeable immediately, both from a mechanical noise perspective, as well as a water level perspective AT THE TIME (ie: timeline 0:00) Also from what we have heard, the main operator panel has no visibility to the unload area, and had no responsibility for that area, which is why there was a separate unload operator. (In later years, Wonderland's snowy could be operated by a single operator using CCTV, with load and unload taking place on either side of the control booth). It is unfair to be making statements that 'either operator had 57 seconds' to prevent this. Or that they will have to 'live with that'. Yes, at some point before hand, the water level could have been noticed, the stalled raft at unload could have been noticed - in fact, in both cases, SHOULD Have been noticed - however this doesn't pin it on the operator. For all we've heard so far, Dreamworld's policies, dreamworld's training, and dreamworld's ignorance of previous recommendations brought this about, and in reality, nothing the operators could have done would have saved people by the time it became apparent. Even the stalled raft may not have appeared 'stuck' but only 'not moving yet' and it may well have been practice on the ride to allow the next raft to 'bump' it along - so even at THAT point, mere seconds before the flip, the unload operator may have not perceived anything wrong, because of the practice of the park's policies. TL:DR - with everything we have heard, it is not appropriate nor fair to pin the loss of these four lives on an operator, or to suggest that they had almost a full minute to perceive and react to save them. The park's culture appears to have taught them that everything was normal, and only when the raft lifted into the air would they have seen a problem worthy of e-stop, which by then would have been too late.
  5. 6 points
    Okay everyone, so this week I am attending the Dreamworld Inquest and taking notes from within the courtroom. These notes are purely just me writing what is said and doesn't include any personal opinions or bias. This also includes information that wasn't necessarily posted by the media as they generally pick one focus point per day and only talk about that. I was posting these notes to a group of people throughout the day as it happened and it was requested that I combine all the notes from today into one document and post it here. I'm posting it as a viewable google document as I'd rather not post my 5 page summary of today directly into the forums. Some of the notes may seem like it's out of order or a bit out of nowhere but the whole document is in chronological order as it was discussed As I will be there all week and it's been requested that I post the updates on here, I would like to put it out to you guys, would you prefer a summary at the end of each day or would you prefer I post the live updates directly into here as they happen? The live updates will be a bit hurried and most likely very frequent (with potential grammatical errors) so it could still spam the thread. I also wont be able to reply to anyone for any questions or clarifications until I've made it home for the day, as information comes fast and heavy with this inquest. Anyway, here is the link the today's notable findings. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dXKLUHzy_glOlVLMwN0pXghXpJQxODat18LZvsNTAlg/edit?usp=sharing
  6. 6 points
    OK so they had a ride which they knew had an issue that was dangerous, didn't communicate that danger to staff, knew what modifications to make to solve it but didn't do them, removed an alarm which may have given the ops staff a chance to abort the disaster, and didn't train tech services properly. They also lied to the coroner, stopped spending on maintenance, and appeared to have deficient processes in place. That's basically the story yeah? I mean what are you even supposed to say to that? Dreamworld is the only theme park in the world that would actually benefit from an advertising campaign that goes 'Our old maintenance manager, ops manager, CEO and Chairperson of the board are in jail now, it's safe to come back' What's scary about it is the people who modified TRR are the same people who are still looking after things out there. The same people who looked after the TRR also put the cages on the log ride.
  7. 6 points
    It's all a moot point. They shouldn't have had to run to a button because appropriate automated controls should have been in place to stop the conveyor.
  8. 5 points
    Thing is something can pass (unless of course it's a Dreamworld safety audio 😛 ) and be bare minimum. Should we running things at bare minimum safety levels to save some dollars when standard industry practices are available at a much higher level? No way! It's very very clear here there were major KNOWN shortcomings in the design, modifications and control systems of that ride, and that even the high level staff seem to have confusion over what did what. That's not ok. The current employees are 100% on the Kool-Aid and have been coached that is clear. You simply CANNOT blame the 2 ride operators in any way for the simple fact that ride operators (no matter how senior as they are still low level front line employees) should never be put into a situation to make literal life or death decisions. The systems should be in place to take those decisions off them. They weren't. They modified the ride to remove the turntable - first thing that allowed the accident to happen They failed to put adequate steps in place to upgrade to a block type system - 2nd thing that allowed the accident to happen They added rails to stabilise the rafts if water dropped - 3rd thing They removed slats to grip the rafts better - 4th thing They removed an 'annoying' alarm - 5th thing They ignored recommendations to upgrade the controls - 6th thing etc etc etc Many of these things were band aid fixes to solve one problem whilst creating another. ANYONE who wants to defend the actions of Dreamworld management in light of all of these things simply is not bing objective I'm sorry.
  9. 5 points
    You can't expect a CEO to sign off on major upgrades if he doesn’t understand what a theme park is and how a theme park works. All you need is look at Craig Davidson history of employment to understand that he was not employed for his theme park knowledge. Various roles. (Southern Pacific Hotel Corporation) worked his way up. Resident Manager (Ayes Rock Resort) Assistant General Manager (Hamilton Island) Resort General Manager (Hamilton Island) Executive General Manager (Voyages Hotels) Executive General Manager (Hamilton Island) Chief Operating Officer (Anthogy) Chief Executive Officer(Anthlogy) (yes this is correct General Manager Destination Development (Tourism Australia) Chief Executive Officer (Ardent Themeparks) This is the hole that Ardent has dug. Ardent don’t believe it require years of knowledge and experience to run a theme park. Ardent running of DW reminds me of a scene out of the original Jurassic Park movie. Dr. Ian Malcolm: “If I may... Um, I'll tell you the problem with the scientific power that you're using here, it didn't require any discipline to attain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step. You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don't take any responsibility for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could, and before you even knew what you had, you patented it, and packaged it, and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now”. Ardent purchased a product they have no knowledge on. Ardent doesn’t employ a CEO who has theme park knowledge. Ardent employ a CEO who only knows how to sell the product. Ardent don’t know what keeps the product going. This is like going to my doctor and asking him if my car needs an oil change. Crazy, crazy, crazy. Proof what skeet says is true. Brock's Garage is out of place within DW. Fun Patrol, telling you to have fun is not fun. Remove steam trains for shitty diesel trains. Put a roof on a flume ride. MDMC, MDMC, MDMC Fill the park with cheap ass spin and spews. Does Skeet need to go on? All very bad non-theme park "knowledge" decisions. All these decision has destroyed the DW product but hey Ardent don't even know what product they are selling.
  10. 5 points
    Nice promo/Ad for DCR during state of origin - intro from the presenter and then played the full trailer with all the characters etc.
  11. 5 points
    Bullshit Razza. You waltz in, quote something from a decade ago in entirety, and ask a three word question like 'what's most annoying' expecting others to do essentially what you could have googled yourself without choking up the thread. In addition, you tend to reply to shit as you read it - so if you're reading a 25 page thread, we'll get posts from you with a question from page 7, and then an hour later another question from page 12, and then the following day, a question from page 22. Learn to use multiquote. Learn to reply to all in one post once you've finished reading the thread (because sometimes your question is already answered), try googling terms you don't understand before asking, and for gods sake learn how to edit quotes to remove text that isn't relevent to your reply. You're really starting to shit me. (I wager others are feeling the same) The statement was this event, with these contributing factors couldn't happen at VRTP because of the culture and procedures they have in place. If it's not the 'exact same event' then you can't really include it - are you going to suggest that a kid won't scrape his knee falling over on main street? no. As for referencing green lantern, that was a design problem from the manufacturer. No park is going to be able to prevent that from happening where the manufacturer has provided engineering clearances without performing NDT regularly (and expensively) which most industries would deem to be overkill. The issue wasn't caused by a homemade attraction, it wasn't caused by a litany of in-park modifications. It wasn't caused by failure to follow recommendations made out after previous incidents. Dude seriously - stop being so fucking argumentative. You're really acting like a tool, and you're not going to make friends here with that sort of attitude. Also, please try to improve your language and spelling, it just makes things easier to read.
  12. 5 points
    A very non-GCB article by the GCB... Opinion: Parks like Movie World a massive asset for the Gold Coast JUNE 20, 2018 A COUPLE of weeks ago I was on a roller coaster that stopped unexpectedly at Movie World. I was in a carriage with my 11-year-old daughter, a friend, and his five-year-old son. We were up there for at least five minutes, probably more, before being evacuated. And it was about the least frightening thing that’s happened to me in my life. It was a side of our theme parks most don’t get to see — what happens when safety precautions kick in. In our case, we were enjoying a spin on the wildly entertaining Scooby Doo Spooky Coaster when our carriage eased to a halt. For those who haven’t had the pleasure, the Scooby Doo coaster is an indoor ride that hurls you fast around a twisting track in near absolute darkness as the rambunctious theme tune to the popular show plays in the background. It’s an absolute hoot, a Movie World favourite that always draws long lines. As we spun through the main section of the ride our carriage slowed. The music stopped playing. The lights went up. And an impressive scene unfolded. Our carriage had parked itself at a walkway leading to an emergency exit, not normally visible in the dark. We watched as carriages behind us arrived, and each slowed to a perfect halt beside their own individual walkway and exit. It was precision engineering the Germans would be Proud of After a couple of minutes, a member of staff appeared at each exit, ready to release riders one by one and lead them to the exit. The staff member who assisted us apologised as she introduced herself — for being nervous. She was shaking a little. It was, she confessed, her “first evac”. She need not have worried. If she was nervous, she was the only one. The engineering marvel that unfolded and professionalism of the clearly well-trained employees, first-timers or not, had everyone perfectly at ease. It was a world away from the truly shocking tale of missed warnings and faulty pumps being told 15km away in the Southport Coroners Court this week. Although unrelated, the publicity from the tragic accident that took four lives at Dreamworld in October 2016 had a negative impact on all our theme parks. There is a fear that a similar downturn may happen again after this week’s proceedings. But there is an enormous gulf between the practices that allegedly contributed to the accident in 2016 and what I recently witnessed. When rides stop, people sometimes start taking pictures on their phones and spreading alarmist messages online. Sometimes TV news even jumps on the bandwagon. To do so is wrong and misleading. Controlled stops like the one I encountered are an indication of safety mechanisms operating exactly as they should. Remember, as we have learnt this week, one of the factors that caused the Dreamworld tragedy was that it did not have an automatic stopping mechanism. Yet since 2016, every time such a minor event occurs at a Gold Coast park, it is sensationalised into a drama it is not. It is damaging and very wrong, not least because our theme parks do more for Gold Coast tourism than any other business and deserve our support. They are a huge sour We’ve heard a lot recently about the potential of a so-called “Global Tourism Hub” or “Integrated Resort Development” to deliver a major attraction to the city. To do so such a development would be backed by a casino and God knows how many poker machines. Yet we already have the finest tourist attractions in the country sitting just off the M1 at Oxenford, and all built without a single family-destroying poker machine being installed. The theme parks have also received precious little marketing backing, featuring little in recent Gold Coast Tourism campaigns despite their obvious need of support in the past two years. And yet, at Oxenford, the investment has continued apace. The inquest taking place in the Southport Coroners Court this week has torn the scab off a wound that is still very raw. The details aired so far have been highly distressing. It is hard to imagine how the pain of the victims’ families attending proceedings could be made more intense. But allegations of missed warnings and bad practices dating back years will surely have done just that. The resulting publicity means the Gold Coast’s hard-won reputation as the nation’s premier tourist destination may take another hit, leading to a fall in numbers at all our theme parks, as happened in 2016. 7’That is something we should work to avoid because the reality is that places like Movie World are among this city’s greatest assets and incredibly well run — as I recently so clearly witnessed.
  13. 5 points
    Quality work again by GCB, they have a timeline of all the events, here is a couple of the “events”... hmm, anyone spot the problem?
  14. 4 points
    Any time there is a fault with the ride, the operators must stop the ride and contact the supervisory team. Ms Cotter does not remember any instance of a ride op raising any safety concerns about the ride with her. Ms Cotter trained any new unload staff that if there was any concerns or issues to just hit the e-stop as first point of call. Ms Cotter was not aware of the 2014 incident where rafts bumped and was not aware of the 2001 incident. In the event of an emergency, one of the other ride ops could also access the e-stop on the unload platform. Ms Cotter confirmed that there was ample time to shut down the ride upon the water level dropping and the rafts colliding during the 2016 incident. It was possible to send 2 rafts together but there was process in place to prevent that. There had always been a risk of rafts bumping according to Ms Cotter Pictures from the 2001 incident were shown and the images were very similar to pictures from the 2016 incident in where the rafts ended up. One of the seat backs on the raft had also been damaged, looking similar to the raft that was removed from the conveyor during the 2016 incident. Ms Cotter confirmed that it would have been helpful if she was advised about the 2001 incident. Michael Stead Maintenance/mechanical fitter Has been employed since 2013 Michael is the partner of another ride op. Mr Stead said that there are scheduled maintenances and checks that take place daily, weekly, 3 monthly, 6 monthly and yearly. He can’t recall which things are specifically checked outside of the daily maintenance. The yearly maintenance is stated as a complete pull apart and check of TRR. Mr Stead doesn’t recall the ride ever being fully disassembled and checked. Mr Stead confirmed that he was always aware of the e-stop and it’s function on the unload platform. Once it was pressed, it would send an alarm to the main control panel which would illuminate a blue light and sound an alarm. Mr Stead recalls that he was part of the team that installed the anti rollback devices onto TRR. Mr Stead is unaware if the north pump will continue to operate if the south pump fails. Also unsure if the pumps are started individually or together. Mr Stead was advised that an electrician was booked to inspect the south pump the day after the incident. Mr Stead stated that the rails added to the troughs had been replaced before and were checked daily. The slats are inspected daily for damage to check for bowing, loose fittings or damaged components. Mr Stead advised that the anti rollback gates were installed to prevent rafts from slipping on the conveyor but he is not aware of any previous issues to warrant this change.
  15. 4 points
    Sarah Cotter She was shown images of the control panel and asked to describe the functions of all the buttons. She then described that there’s only 1 e-stop button on the control panel that doesn’t shut everything off. The alarms were removed due to it accidentally triggering an emergency response for a non emergency situation. She isn’t 100% sure when it was removed. Ms Cotter confirmed that the ride ops on the day didn’t hit the emergency alarm button which would sound the alarm alerting all staff of an emergency situation. Ms Cotter personally doesn’t understand why the secondary conveyor e-stop hadn’t been pressed. Ms Cotter confirmed that she only knew the function of that button due to testing it out of curiosity. Ms Cotters personal opinion of the event was that upon arrival, the conveyor was still operating and she’s unsure if they conveyor was stopped due to an e-stop or due to it getting jammed with a raft. Unload ride ops are trained to be constantly monitoring the conveyor. Unload ops should be facing the direction of the conveyor at all times. Ms Cotter had heard gossip that a staff member was terminated in 2014 due to shutting off the conveyor without good reason. Ms Cotter mentioned that the ride wasn’t stressful for her but she’s never been presented with an emergency situation. Pre opening checklists included whether the first aid kit was stocked. The report that was shown was for a week during October 2016 and it was shown that the first aid kit had not been restocked in the whole week and the ride continued to operate without issue. Ms cotter confirms that she has only ever pressed the e-stop to check its function and never while there were guests on the ride. She believes she first did this in 2014. Ms cotter had heard rumours of the e-stop being pressed by another ride op in 2015 after a raft slipped down the conveyor. When supervisors are trained to be a trainer, they will be retrained on the smaller rides and slowly work up to being taught how to train new staff on the larger rides.
  16. 4 points
    I went today to check out the Stormtrooper weekend and the pass centre was packed with a line out the door for most of the day. Still many people buying new passes or upgrading despite the negative light that has been shed on Dreamworld this past week.
  17. 4 points
    Update time! Because we haven’t had any updates in nearly a month, Trolls Village is opening next Saturday 30th June
  18. 4 points
    Comments like your an idiot are not necessary and probably should be reviewed by moderators .
  19. 4 points
    I don't think a name change is necessary. Perhaps an addendum (as a gross example, if Six Flags were to purchase they'd tack the SF onto the name) but i don't think Dreamworld as a brand has been destroyed. Ardent certainly has been hit, but much of the negative reporting has identified Ardent as the operator of the park, who has not done \ not said \ not implemented etc etc. Dreamworld's identity isn't getting the thrashing that Ardent is, and for that I think if Ardent sells, and sells publicly, confidence in the new operator with a good track record will be restored. For this reason it has to be someone with experience. It cannot be some random consortium looking to add a jewel to their portfolio for a bargain.
  20. 4 points
    I had occasion to visit Sea World yesterday for an extended family outing. Here are my thoughts... For reference: 4 adults, 4 kids, (all over 90cm). First up (and I know we've discussed this elsewhere) but whatever happened to Kirby's promise to have 'everything open' ? We were meeting family in park, so we decided not to detour to McD's on the way, and pick up something for breakfast \ brunch when we got there. On arrival, we climb the steep hill to the top, only to have a disinterested, corporate (VRTP) branded staff member casually observe our membership cards in hand, before lazily raising an arm in the direction of the alternate entrance saying 'oh, you've already got your tickets - this way'. There's something about childhood memories... of walking up that hill, with the blue dolphin looming overhead, quick stop for mum to frame a photo of the kids under the dolphin before a quick stroll through the ticket booths before opening up onto the lake proper... These days, this 'alternative entrance' which is dark, dingy, clearly not set up as an entrance, and appears to be primarily set up in this way so as to allow the greenscreen upsellers to make a buck, isn't really the best way to welcome people into the park - even if they hold annual passes, and have 'been there, done that'... especially as you then channel them out the doors towards some 'temporary' ticket booth scanners. It fucks with the flow. All guests inbound to the park should flow in one direction - unfortunately these two entry points cause contra flow - so a dingy, shitty look, and poor pedestrian flow = bad. Ok - we're in. Now for food - Lakeside happens to be right next to the 'alternative entrance'. Its shiny, clean and fresh looking, with some big TVs advertising a really nice bacon and egg burger, for under $10 - sounds delicious... except - theres a small A4 sign saying they're closed... and that you can be served at another outlet 30 metres away... which is fine - except there's nobody staffing that outlet either (they're all clustered around the espresso machine madly trying to serve all the coffee orders). We ask if the lakeside menu is available through the other outlets - No. We ask when will it open? They think 10... or maybe 10:30... but then one girl remembers that they'll be a bit later to open today because so-and-so was late. Oh, but did I mention, if you'd like to order Ice Cream at 9:50am on a frigid wintry morning - you can certainly do that... We decide to head to the plaza. They have a village bean, and a few other outlets... Maybe we'll have better luck there? Fat chance. even the Village Bean isn't open. Its 10:10. Bathroom break, ride the carousel, decide to head back to Lakeside for food. Staff were busily setting up sippers\drink bottles. the sign was still up. heat lights were on in the kitchen which was at least a positive. No communication except that damn A4 sign. Eventually, one of the staff told me they'd open in 5 minutes. 20 seconds later, the other staff member removed the A4 sign. 30 seconds later the first staff member took my order... and about 5 minutes later my burger shot down the chute of the food warmer. ...2 minutes later the original staff member put down the box of sippers they were packing and handed me the burger.... The burger was good. For theme park pricing, it was about what i expected, but it was hot, and the egg was runny (which was a surprise, but luckily no mess and thoroughly enjoyed it). It was tasty, and I probably would have gotten the same thing down the road for only $2 less, so value wise it was pretty good, and everything was fresh. So then we're finally off into the park. The park has a popup 'experience' desk just past the front building, offering 'dolphin pat and a seal hug, with photo for $xx'. It was a good combo deal, but it just repulsed me that the experience would be reduced just down to the 'pose, smile, click, get out' structure - SW's many animal experiences have for years been about much more than just the photo - and it seems like they'd boiled it down to 'how can we get as many paying people through as possible' - more focus on the revenue than the animals and the preservation messages, which to me just made it seem cheap \ pet porpoise pool style - not really suited to sea world at all. The helicopters were kept busy all day with asian tourists - this doesn't really impact anyone else and if someone wants to pay a fortune to enter a park to pay another fortune to fly over it, then thats just less people in my next queue... The seal show had an early 10:15 showtime, which was a great start to the day, except there was no signage or anything directing people up to the stadium. it was quite empty - we passed on this on our earlier walk-through. I have wanted to see it since it was re-done, but what little I caught as I walked past struck me that I probably didn't need to see anymore. Storm was closed, and with Vikings gone, it leaves a real hole in the park's 'central energy'. With the kids we spent a lot of time around Nick Land, and the kids got through a few rides. By now it was nearing 12pm, and it was time to checkout the Paw Patrol show, which Master Two usually goes crazy for. In terms of this, I'm just going to say that they've got two pup suits, and a banner, and the show consists of about 15 minutes of dancing with some audience involvement. It has about as much to do with Paw Patrol as it does to do with Sea World, and you could literally pick ANY intellectual property, get two suits, with two 'human' hosts alongside, and the show would be the same, provided the 'pup'-language was changed to suit whatever the IP was. It was generic, and even Master Two was bored. We checked out the polar bears - Mishka wasn't on exhibit, and then headed to Ray Reef. For me, I thought it was lacking, which is to say that there seemed to be a lot less Rays than there used to be. The fact that 'feeding' is not currently available is probably more an indicator of this as the rays aren't encouraged to interact with guests, rather than there being any change to population. There was also a maintenance worker in the tank scrubbing the sides - who was pleasant enough to interact with, but it struck me as odd for this sort of task to be done during park opening hours. We moved onto Shark bay whilst the older kids headed to Jet Rescue. Shark Bay also seems to be lacking some of the life it used to - I feel like there used to be more variety of shark and fish in the 'reef' side - I did however note the 'big shark' side had a turtle in it - something i'd never seen before. By this stage, we were getting closer to the time for the Jet Ski show. Deciding it was time for a (late) lunch, and not really having much interest in the Jet Skis, we decided to leave, and pick up a cheaper lunch elsewhere. Yes, this trip wasn't really about rides (for me) but it is really a stark contrast just how little there is to 'do'. There's plenty to 'see', but there is so much about our day thatcould have been better with very little effort. I can't imagine we'd have ridden storm had it been open, nor would we have done vikings, battle boats, or the splash play area, as it was just too damn cold. Little wonder there was nobody in the water for animal experiences either. The park has lots of summer things to do, but it's missing the land-based stuff that keeps a winter guest happy.... like hot fresh food first thing in the morning. We've discussed VRTP standards in detail, but I do feel that much of that discussion has centred around Movie World, with very little about SW or WnW - but it is just as apparent to me that SW is worse off than MW is - because at least one could stay busy all day at MW. We could easily have left SW by midday had it not been for certain showtimes, and there was little to occupy us in between. Forget the standards at MW right now - Sea World needs urgent help... NOW.
  21. 4 points
    Thanks for the summary @Roachie - these two points have me a little intrigued. I'm first wondering whether the 'confusing' label is that applied to it by investigators, or by qualified and experienced operators. Ie: were the people trained to operate it saying the panel was confusing? Or just a layperson? I'm sure many rides around the world would appear confusing to someone not trained on it... and I can't really imagine an experienced operator finding a panel confusing so i'm just trying to figure it out in my head. WRT the 'two' e-stops, my understanding is the main e-stop was an 'all stop' - so cut power to pumps etc, and for that reason, seven seconds sounds like the time it takes the water levels to drop within the station area. The 'second' (although apparently not marked in this way) was only a stop button for the conveyor - water continued to flow if this was pressed. If my understanding is correct, then the instructions 'not to use' and 'nobody uses that' kind of make sense. In an emergency, you would want an 'all stop' not just a 'stop the conveyor' so it does kind of make sense in most scenarios. At the end of the day its starting to sound much worse than we had thought out at Dreamworld, and I think the best outcome here for all is for the inquest to end with an outcome, for that outcome to absolutely crucify Ardent and it's operations, and for the park to be on-sold to an operator with an exemplary record to re-start everything from scratch.
  22. 4 points
    Wow. So much effort for such little achievement. How sad.
  23. 3 points
    On the contrary: I've spaced your statements out for impact, but your allegation was categoric. The tragedy could have been avoided if they pressed the button they had almost a minute to press the button i'm not sure why they didn't press the button in this minute, unless they weren't doing their job properly they have to live with that. I've refuted your statement on the basis that your assumption of 'almost a minute' is way off base, and also on the basis you assume that there is no conceiveable reason why they wouldn't have pressed the e-stop unless they were distracted. I've called into question your timeline (it's wrong) as well as the reasons why they didn't (training, policy, not identifying an issue until the last moment - hardly 'distracted'). I'm sure some operators will read these forums. Maybe even those giving evidence. Your statement isn't supported by the evidence and is downright disgusting. I'm sure (given we've heard of self harm incidents) that these people are living with this every day - without anyone suggesting that they were derelict in their duties (simply distracted) and had almost a minute to save these people, when in reality the first real indication for them that something was wrong was probably when the raft lifted out of the water. Are you an operator with knowledge of the attraction? You've said this twice, and yet we've already heard evidence at the inquest that the unload operator had access to a conveyor belt stop button, which has been referred to as an emergency stop, or '2-second stop' button - which suggests that there was more than just green buttons to left the rafts flow by. If you're only drawing on publicly accessible images to make your assessments, then please shut up - clearly evidence before the inquest has already discredited you, and you're just making a fool of yourself.
  24. 3 points
    'a fan at the top' doesn't magically make them comfortable. On hot days, the airflow simply evaporates their sweat faster, dehydrating them quicker. Costumed characters go through hell. I've seen characters get backstage and literally collapse in a heap of sweaty plush, red-faced and all, after only 'sitting' in position for photos for 20-25 minutes.
  25. 3 points
    Actually, no. The screen is just a 3D object for projection mapping. By definition a screen is a specially prepared, light-reflecting surface something may be projected.
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