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13 minutes ago, ShakeShack said:

Really feels like you're moving the goal posts here...

Superman and Batwing have both been down to aid construction of both Flash AND Oz. Extended more so than their usual periods. From what you can see, a large amount of concreting has been done around Superman's supports to aid with Oz, if this wasn't done now (possibly extending it's closure) then it would have had to go down again later in the year for it. Which would you prefer?

I'd hardly call Doomsday a major attraction.

Doomsday is 1 of 2 large flat rides at the park, with the other one also being down (and, not really needing to be for WoO/Flash reasons). Superman being closed whilst Flash is worked on makes sense, but there is a large amount of time the park isn’t open that Flash could be worked on if they wanted to have Superman open, and Flash’s choice location in of itself is already a debated topic. Superman definitely doesn’t need to be closed for WoO reasons, though. They’re totally separate, and concrete pouring for it barely impacts Superman’s plot, can be done outside of hours/guest routes w/o closing Superman, not to mention taking a week or 2 max. They’re all closed because maintenance objectively wasn't planned well, because some rides are complete DuDs, and possibly because they don’t have enough resources/staff to perform fast maintenance or smooth operation (but that’s speculation).

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40 minutes ago, ShakeShack said:

Superman and Batwing have both been down to aid construction of both Flash AND Oz. Extended more so than their usual periods. From what you can see, a large amount of concreting has been done around Superman's supports to aid with Oz, if this wasn't done now (possibly extending it's closure) then it would have had to go down again later in the year for it. Which would you prefer?

Batwing and Superman always close around the same time every year for 2 months. normally early feb to early april. Doomsday is also always around this time too along with JDS but Doomsday remains closed until whenever it wants to.

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1 hour ago, ShakeShack said:

Really feels like you're moving the goal posts here...

Superman and Batwing have both been down to aid construction of both Flash AND Oz. Extended more so than their usual periods. From what you can see, a large amount of concreting has been done around Superman's supports to aid with Oz, if this wasn't done now (possibly extending it's closure) then it would have had to go down again later in the year for it. Which would you prefer?

I'd hardly call Doomsday a major attraction.

Nobody is buying what you're selling.

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2 hours ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

Tassie Devil was a similar model at Wonderland too, and it was always popular. 

Was probably my favourite flat at Wonderland - in a close way finish with Wizards Fury

It would be fine as an attraction to fill a gap in their offerings - but i wouldnt be taking up valuable showstage realestate with it - it's would be just fine outside.

1 hour ago, ShakeShack said:

I'd hardly call Doomsday a major attraction.

when you only have 2-3 rides operating in your park suitable for anyone over the age of 5 - they are all major.  

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7 minutes ago, New display name said:

MW only having 2 big rides open.

ShakeShack "It's fine"

 

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ShakeShack " Look at DW"

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Standard dribble from you champ.

Point I'm making is, Village are/were being slammed for closing attractions for 2 months for maintenance, "but Dreamworld don't do it", yet I point out that they in fact do. Perhaps you can't see your bias, but it's draining and boring.

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19 minutes ago, ShakeShack said:

Standard dribble from you champ.

Point I'm making is, Village are/were being slammed for closing attractions for 2 months for maintenance, "but Dreamworld don't do it", yet I point out that they in fact do. Perhaps you can't see your bias, but it's draining and boring.

If you had a clue, you would know, I constantly get slammed for picking on DW.

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41 minutes ago, Brad2912 said:

It would be fine as an attraction to fill a gap in their offerings - but i wouldnt be taking up valuable showstage realestate with it - it's would be just fine outside.

Sorry wasn't the conversation replacements for Doomsday... which is outside showstage?

19 minutes ago, Dean Barnett said:

Why can’t they just comp backwards rides on rivals .. if it’s open? 
 

Doesn’t cost them a cent and they’re already heaps up from not having staff to operate the closed rides. 
 

Free value add. 

Another dumb idea from your brain. 

It's a paid experience. The park is lacking capacity for numerous reasons, and your solution is to open up TWO seats, that normally cost $30+ each, and make them free?

So for the approximately 350 people that they can fit on this in a day, wahoo. and for the rest, you end up pissing people off even more because they couldn't ride it. 

The only way you make backwards free on DCR is if you turn the entire train around and run one each way.

18 minutes ago, ShakeShack said:

Standard dribble from you champ.

Point I'm making is, Village are/were being slammed for closing attractions for 2 months for maintenance, "but Dreamworld don't do it", yet I point out that they in fact do. Perhaps you can't see your bias, but it's draining and boring.

Two month periods is being slammed as a cash saver. maybe it is, and maybe it isn't. but both parks seem to do it, and they never used to. So it could be a cash saver or it could be the post-TRRR consequence of modern regulation and maintenance.

But long term maintenance periods that occur at the same time ARE a problem.

  • Scooby is down long term. By all accounts, unavoidable. necessary. shit happens.
  • Doomsday is down - probably for good. it's been shit pretty much since open, unreliable so even if it were to reopen it isn't likely to stay that way. 
  • Superman - down, for maintenance but apparently also to pour some concrete and get the rest of Flash ready to go. Ok, fair enough if its necessary, but concrete surfacing in an area that is normally guest accessible during ride operation doesn't prevent SE from running. Flash's area in the helix is also going to be guest accessible when opened, so some level of work could continue whilst Superman ran too. If the ride maintenance itself is done, getting SE back online should be a priority when the park is where it is. If it means closing it again later (When less other things in park are offline) then so be it.
  • Batwing - down, allegedly for maintenance and also apparently for Flash, though I'm not sure I understand how Batwing is impacted by Flash construction?

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2 minutes ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

Superman - down, for maintenance but apparently also to pour some concrete and get the rest of Flash ready to go. Ok, fair enough if its necessary, but concrete surfacing in an area that is normally guest accessible during ride operation doesn't prevent SE from running. Flash's area in the helix is also going to be guest accessible when opened, so some level of work could continue whilst Superman ran too. If the ride maintenance itself is done, getting SE back online should be a priority when the park is where it is. If it means closing it again later (When less other things in park are offline) then so be it.

The pour taking place is throughout the entire 'plaza' area outside of Superman, including around all of the supports, and the exit ramp. The backside of the entire ride envelope is also open currently to allow for trucks, materials and so on to enter for flash, obviously you can't run the attraction without any fencing.

Flash's area will be guest accessible in certain areas, but that doesn't involve cranes and so on within the Superman footprint.

 

6 minutes ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

Batwing - down, allegedly for maintenance and also apparently for Flash, though I'm not sure I understand how Batwing is impacted by Flash construction?

Batwing has gone through it's annual rebuild, and is nearing completion for the photos we've seen posted online, but there are as far as I'm aware, a lot of temp services running through that area.

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17 minutes ago, ShakeShack said:

The pour taking place is throughout the entire 'plaza' area outside of Superman, including around all of the supports, and the exit ramp.

You can still operate Superman while pouring if you can work within the red area. It's a temporary issue from a DDA point of view (or steps could have a temporary ramp if necessary)

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19 minutes ago, ShakeShack said:

The backside of the entire ride envelope is also open currently to allow for trucks, materials and so on to enter for flash, obviously you can't run the attraction without any fencing.

There are ways to ameliorate this. Vehicle access gates already existed facing the plaza, and temporary fencing can be used also. This particular point could have been worked around to keep the ride running if they had wanted to put in the effort.

20 minutes ago, ShakeShack said:

Flash's area will be guest accessible in certain areas, but that doesn't involve cranes and so on within the Superman footprint.

That's fine - if its necessary to do it, sure - but two things:

  1. How much crane work still exists? The track is built so we need a crane to put the train on, and we need a crane to lift in the theming pieces? 
  2. How much of that could have been done after hours - again if they had wanted to put in the effort (and pay the night shift rates?)

 

The point is, had it been operable, they could have run Superman for a lot of this. Even if the entrance side (green, above) needed new concrete, that takes you out for a week tops. Other fences exist to maintain the envelope even if the primary fence was taken down. They could certainly have planned lifts to occur outside of hours, or early morning with crews cleared by 10 or 11.

All of it is a cost, obviously, and the cheapest option is to just shutter it until everything is done - but if that be the case they shouldn't still be charging full price while taking the cheapest option. If they want to charge full price, they should be spending to keep as many rides open as is possible.

The fact you've already said they could have closed it later already proves there was a choice here - they made it, and it's caused backlash as a result. Fact.

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@ShakeShackwhen The Dreamworld Flyer was built, all trucks/cranes were locked out during park hours not to interrupt the operation of the park.  A lot of tradespeople start work at 5am and are off site by 1pm.  MW could have worked in opening SE at 1pm with better planing.

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(only mentioning DW because you like to compare them)

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1 hour ago, ShakeShack said:

Batwing has gone through it's annual rebuild, and is nearing completion for the photos we've seen posted online, but there are as far as I'm aware, a lot of temp services running through that area.

Can confirm I’ve heard it has had a major refurb/service.


Was testing on Sunday albeit without all the seats.

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5 hours ago, ShakeShack said:

The point I am making is, these works are all been done at the same time to minimise the downtime later in the year. Would this not make more sense, if you're already servicing the attractions, to do the rest of the works required at the same time?

To the park? It makes sense.

To the passholder? It's annoying, but it makes sense.

To the day guest? The full price gate ticket on a once in a lifetime visit to the park who is confronted with the abomination that is HWSD, Roxy and Wild West Falls as the only adult level attractions who gets told by the park's social team they should have checked the website? get fucked.

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On 06/03/2024 at 8:40 AM, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

Even if intending guests check the website - Scooby doesn't appear in the maintenance sections, and it definitely looks like they're trying to hide it by putting it at the bottom. IMO, it should be at the top, since its a family favourite.

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1 hour ago, Dean Barnett said:

They're now gaslighting guests by gaslighting other guests!

 

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The amount of attractions that go down purely due to guest behaviour is insane. How is that gaslighting them?

The amount of times I've seen West have to evacuate because some numpty jumped the fence to retrieve a lost item is next level. Crawl back into your little hole king.

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3 hours ago, Spotty said:

Funny you should say that... I worked at the park for several years, and Wild West Falls was one of the rides that I operated the most (along with Scooby) and not once did I ever have to stop the ride or witness a ride stop due to someone jumping the fence. It really doesn't happen often at all, people standing up on West was much more frequent but with the new harnesses it would be pretty much impossible to do that now. 

Honestly I'm surprised to hear that. It was probably happening every other week when I worked on it; I never stopped the ride myself but was there when it happened more the once. 

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