Dreamworld & WhiteWater World Wish List

[New display name]

Dapto mentioned in another exhilarating conversation about getting WWW open, the need for DW to keep the foot on the accelerator because more work is necessary.

“I still think the dry park is short a few key attractions, given how many were gutted from the park in the last 10 years, in reality they have added Sky Voyager, Taipan, Jungle Rush and Flyer, refurbished the vintage cars and upgraded the claw. Does that make up for the loss of TRRR, Buzzsaw, Rocky Hollow, Wipeout and technically Eureka? I'd say it's pretty close - so maybe they are ready to start work on WWW after all?”

What key attraction is Dreamworld still lacking?

What new attractions does WhiteWater World require to get the turnstiles turning on more days of the year?

 

Edited Thursday at 12:27 AM by New display name

[Smol bean]

A Key attraction for dreamworld should come from finally sorting out the dead end at Ocean Parade and adding a more traditional style of dark ride that takes over the whole area of Trolls and Kevil Hill for the queue and station and expands out onto a good part of the western end of Thunderbolts plot for the main ride building. The rest of Thunderbolts plot not taken over by the dark ride should be used for WWW and include some form of a Lazy river by TOH that has been the plan since Phase 3 and a larger raft slide for the whole family akin to Mammoth falls that takes over the Shell (If it isn't used enough to justify keeping it standing) and goes out onto the eastern part of Thunderbolts plot with more of a winding layout to set it apart from Mammoth Falls. These ideas do feel like a bit of a pipe dream in terms of everything else DW needs to fix up or restore but would really help with adding a true expansion at the park that doesn't result in ride closure and fill the gaps these parks have been left with since 2020 at dreamworld and ever since WWW's opening respectively.

[wikiverse]

Dreamworld is still lacking a dark ride, a water ride, a second major thrill coaster, a second inverting thrill ride and an adults-only space like a bar.  They're also lacking shows - especially shows that aren't for little kids.

Most importantly a second themed land.  Rivertown is it.  Goldrush, Rocky Hollow and Ocean parade used to be themed lands (even if they got a bit crap toward the end), and Ocean Parade is currently a dead end with a Big Brother set.

Dreamworld needs to replace Rocky Hollow with a new water ride.  They need to fix ocean parade from the Wipeout plot around to Kevil Hill and completely remove Gold Coaster - which is a janky painful experience - and tightly integrate a new internal entrance to WWW - maybe using the land to weave coasters and slides together.

DW doesn't need to 'replace what was lost' because they also lost the chair-lift, the paddle steamer, the Tiger Island presentation, Thunderbolt, and ToT.  They need to build out new themed lands and have a good balance of attractions for kids, families and thrill seekers.

They also need to remove Motocoaster and Gold Coaster - which is honestly more of an opportunity than a loss - They don't need direct replacements, but a second family coaster, and a second thrill coaster are definitely things they'll need.  

 

[Ash]

Use the old Thunderbolt plot for a WWW expansion with a lazy river and a couple more slide towers.

As Wikiverse said, Rocky Hollow needs to be replaced with a new water dark ride, Motorcoaster to be an expansion of Rivertown.

The Gold Coaster to be replaced with a custom Flying coaster, imagine weaving in and out of WWW on a flying coaster? Would be an awesome experience. 
 

 

[TBoy]

51 minutes ago, Ash said:

The Gold Coaster to be replaced with a custom Flying coaster, imagine weaving in and out of WWW on a flying coaster? Would be an awesome experience. 

I would absolutely love that. I rode Flying Dinosaur and Acrobat when I went to Japan last month and both were great, especially the former. Probably my second favourite coaster aside from Hakugei I've written

If they did build one the operations better not be as bad as Acrobat. With that the same people operating the ride were also loading the ride and you couldn't even enter the locker room that was before the boarding gates until everyone on the previous cycle had gotten their stuff and left. Combined with 1 train operations with dual loading platforms exactly like Flying Dinosaur (which was running 4 trains) that means it was already running at 25% of its capacity, not to mention the slow boarding times.

Meanwhile Hakugei and Steel Dragon 2000 had a station set up for two trains and were running two trains. Steel Dragon 2000 was - fine, a bit slow but could be worse, Hakugei had a locker system like Flying Dinosaur where you put your belongings inside a lockers before going up to the loading platform, although you had a key connected to a wristband instead of a QR code that you put inside your pocket which I found a lot better. Ops weren't as fast as Universal but better than most other rides at the park.

For both they let you into the station before riders from the previous train had left unlike Acrobat with 1 train ops and the bad procedures. Acrobat literally had the worst operations I've seen, and that's coming from a park with not-so-good operations (especially the Arrow Corkscrew and the two Scwarzkopfs, but they aren't as bad as Acrobat)

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

In my opinion - 

Dreamworld

• removing gold coaster is not an option
• removing motocoaster is not an option
• Installing any big mega coaster (Flying Dinosaur being just one example here) isn't financially viable. 
• doing something with Trolls \ Kevil makes the most sense and cleans up that end of the park nicely
• Any further DW expansion should make use of the rocky hollow plot before anyone thinks of cramming more shit at the end of Ocean Parade by venturing into the thunderbolt plot.
• Ideally rocky hollow development would allow them to connect steel taipan's dead end with giant drop, forming a loop - like thunder river used to have - rather than a dead end and a long walk between the two big thrill rides.

WhiteWaterWorld

• Needs a lazy river
• Should utilise the shell or thunderbolt plot
• Install a good slide tower of body slides. Use manufacturers that don't set absurdly low weight limits requiring scales everywhere.
• Don't remove Fully 6 (at least not yet)

[TBoy]

1 hour ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

doing something with Trolls \ Kevil makes the most sense and cleans up that end of the park nicely

Are we sure if Big Brother is using that or not? Not sure on how things are going with that, if another area is being converted for the outdoor section or if that is. If Big Brother is renewed and stays inside the Exhibition Center permanently then it's likely that would remain as is.

Edited Thursday at 07:43 AM by TBoy

[Brad2912]

2 hours ago, TBoy said:

Are we sure if Big Brother is using that or not? Not sure on how things are going with that, if another area is being converted for the outdoor section or if that is. If Big Brother is renewed and stays inside the Exhibition Center permanently then it's likely that would remain as is.

It is being used but nothing about this seasons production seems “permanent” 

[themagician]

For WWW I want to see them get a lazy river, ProSlide’s TornadoWAVE, a Proslide Mammoth and another tower of body slides. I think those would really complete their lineup and add something for everyone.

For DW, a high thrill lift hill coaster on the rocky hollow site, an Intamin or Mack water based attraction to replace Motocoaster (tied into Rivertown theme), and a couple rides to fill in the void/mess of the back of Ocean Parade.

[Spectrumco]

I've been working on this for a while and this topic seems like the best time to share it. I've put together a bit of a wish list mock-up masterplan for Ocean Parade and the Thunderbolt plot. 



Ocean Parade:
Bring the water back to Ocean Parade, start with running the bulldozer through Trolls Village and Thunderbolt's station. The space could be opened up to make room for a new battle boat attraction, theming it around fishing trawlers with a twist of fantasy - Imagine Kind Claw's tentacles rising from the depths, interacting with the boats. One of the trawlers could be suspended mid-air by a tentacle. The ride station is the newly advertised "K&B Brown Ocean Parade Boatworks" teased on the wall beside King Claw. This attraction would set itself apart from the Battle Boats at SW by incorporating themed rockwork tunnels, show scenes and a unique immersive experience.  While we're at it, put some tentacles breaking out of the ground down near SS and the dodgems, I think this would be a great way to finally give Ocean parade a cohesive tie from one end to the other. King Claw has arrived and is wreaking havoc through throughout the area. 

The area would also get a wharf theme (think the original Pacific Wharf at Disneyland or Mooloolaba Wharf for something more basic), with an accessible kids dry boat-themed playground (similar to the former SS Feathersword in Wiggles World) between the battle boat harbour and Gold Coaster's entry. The Kevil facade would be retained and repainted to resemble a fishmonger's loading dock, acting as the entry to a new hero attraction: a dark ride themed to the ocean depths. I'd love to see a river ride return to the coast or a trackless dark ride here with show scenes that bring guests on a journey through the underwater world, potentially with inspiration from Jora Vision's concept work for VinWonder:

Various facades that suit the wharf village theme line the park border and create a backdrop for the battle boat attraction. The boardwalk leads to the dark ride exit store which also acts as the internal gate between DW and WWW.

WWW:
Adjacent to the new internal gate, a sorely needed F&B outlet overlooks the new WWW expansion. This is themed as a tiki bar that draws on old-school Australiana (Tangaroa Terrace meets Banana Bender Pub).

A purpose-built BB house on the southern side of the property returns the DEC to dreamworld for year-round use. The mock-up shows the original BB house to scale complete with internal yard. Direct entry to the house from both parks for production as well as post-season tours. The DEC will become the live show auditorium for subsequent seasons.  BB Production facilities are all back-of-house.

The Shell is to be relocated to the Eastern side of the Thunderbolt site to allow for a new slide tower featuring a Boomerango, Tailspin+Rattler Fusion as well as a family raft slide. The mock-up features the Boomerango/Tailspin+Rattler compact layout to scale from Aqualantis and Gumbuya World.

The main expansion to WWW will see the long-awaited lazy river. The mock-up uses a scaled replica of the lazy river from Four Seasons Orlando Resort which features lush greenery and theming. This will be WWW's answer to Murrisippi Motors - rockwork, animals, lighting for night events, waterfalls and bridges across the river to secluded grassed areas and seating throughout the area. I believe if the theming is well done, this will blow Calypso Beach out of the water (pun intended). The area is a huge people eater and once gardens have grown in it will provide a great chill-out area to get out of the sun. 

Back of house:
The shed located to the east of the Thunderbolt plot will need to be relocated behind Kevil and some realignment of the BOH roads is required; however the majority of the back of house facilities will remain unchanged.

[wikiverse]

53 minutes ago, Spectrumco said:

A purpose-built BB house on the southern side of the property

DW should not be factoring Big Brother into any of their plans.  This current series starts in Nov and ends in Dec.  It's only going to be a 4-5 week run and the 'house' set will be gone before Xmas. 

DW need to focus on their own core business of theme park experiences and putting in fully immersive, themed lands.  BB might bring in some short-term cash so I don't hate them doing it, but if they want to have a TV production precinct (not a terrible idea) it should be on the North end of the park as part of their rezoning/development plans, and should be designed for many different shows so it can operate year round.

[Brad2912]

16 minutes ago, wikiverse said:

DW should not be factoring Big Brother into any of their plans. 

I guess that comes down to $$$$ 

channel 10 and the production company realistically won’t make a call on longevity until ratings for the first 3-4 weeks of this season are in. If a return to its previous format brings viewers back, I can see it getting a multi-season deal which could see the DEC taken over semi-permanently (the “house” may remain year round with walk-thru available to guests in non production periods) or they may move to build a more permanent house elsewhere on the site. 

If the money thrown at the them by the production company outweighs what they make from a functional events centre, they’d be silly not to accept it as it’s guaranteed revenue - what that would mean for the future of trolls village/kevil etc which I believe are being used in some capacity is yet to be seen 

 

[JackWally]

Would love to see dreamworld really focus on their “so many worlds in one.” And just thematic entertainment in general. There’s potential for 7 highly themed worlds and countless shows, parades and character appearances that I think would bring back some nostalgic culture to the park. Whilst also increasing ride and entertainment offerings to appeal to all generations and ages of visitors. 
This is obviously just my wish list and I understand Dreamworld probably doesn’t have the disposable funds to make it all happen. But over the next 10 years I’m sure most of this could be attainable. 

Ocean Parade

- New water and/or dark ride attraction/s possibly a coaster similar to Storm at SW or a flume, boat ride, tackless ride, etc 
- A pirate ship flat would work really well in ocean parade imo. Albeit a bit boring none of the GC parks have one

- Extensive and consistent theming upgrades in the area 

- Remove Serpent Slayer (relocate) 

- Down the track, when the time is right, remove Gold Coaster and replace with a single rail coaster 

K&Bs Dreamland

- Extend the world by using the Serpent Slayer land and adding 1-2 new kid friendly rides

- Additional shows for kid/family entertainment

Rivertown 

- Retheme Motocoaster to match the aesthetic of Rivertown. Keep it bike themed (dirt bike? ATV?) but it really needs some new cars, fresh theming and a track to not be painted yellow. 

Wildlife Experience & Tiger Island

- Tiger island with its recent upgrades is probably fine for a while 

- Wildlife needs to become an attraction in itself rather than feel like you’ve walked into the backlot of a theme park. The once planned Koala Research Centre would be great. Maybe add some additional animal enclosures to get people to actually stop by instead of walking through just to get back to the rides. 
- Extra experiences or shows in the world, maybe steal some ideas from Outback Spectacular & Paradise Country. 

Main Street 

- Bring back the charm of Main Street making it feel like a world of magic and fantasy

- Additional roaming characters and entertainment (singing, dancing, parade etc)

- ST and GD should not be included as part of Main Street 

Outback Country (Modern take on Gold Rush/Rocky Hollow)

- Connect ST and GD via a path for this new world. Theme it to the Australian outback. ST and GD already would fit in with this theme. (Snake and oil drilling)

- New queue line for the GD, remove all the unnecessary stairs and ramps they currently have that essentially lead no where. 
- New high thrill *australia first* roller coaster. B&M would be a dream manufacturer but I’ll take anything that can compete more closely with DC Rivals.  

- Move Serpent Slayer to this land and retheme possibly to an insect? (6 gondolas?)

- Create an 18+ F&B outlet, possibly something with an outback pub kinda vibe? Best place would be to put it near several of the top thrill rides. Even if it’s not 18+ just somewhere to get a decent drink for the adults would be nice. 

Doing all of this would only create 5 new attractions, 2 being kids, 2 being family and 1 being thrill. Also future proofs the inevitable retirement of GC. But with the relocation of SS and new paths between ST and GD it would really zone out all “worlds” nicely. If the park builds the koala research centre, adds some new shows, reintroduce the parade whilst also keeping an eye on detail and theming I think absolutely every guest of every age going to the park would benefit. 

[Baconjack]

IMO and just my 2 cents 

A high throughput family ride is dreamworld’s number 1 need. I’ve been a fan of a shoot the chutes at dreamworld for ages but a modern flume would also be a good option. Please do not put this in ocean parade when there’s plenty of space on the other end of the park that needs something big to distribute crowds
 

Motocoaster is not leaving it’s more likely that it is rethemed

Nebulaz where flowrider is, please and thanks

Dreamworld in my view is set for high thrill rides for now and I don’t see them installing another high thrill coaster unless they plan on pulling down Gold coaster in the near future (which they aren’t)

Kevil hill/trolls village is off limits until big brother stops using it (whether the show is canned again or production leaves dreamworld)

WWW is almost a fully fleshed out park, it just needs a lazy river, thankfully there’s a spot ready for one where they attempted to put one before.
 

Edited Friday at 06:05 AM by Baconjack

[TBoy]

If only we got a Flying Dinosaur clone, I put the layout from USJ onto here and this shows that not much has to be removed for it, only a BOH building, Gamesite as well as the Trolls area and the Thunderbolt station...

In all honestly it won't happen. What I would realistically like to see is the in-park entry from Dreamworld to WWW reopened. What my idea would be is to use the southern end of the Thunderbolt area for a new slide tower, with the northern end (including Trolls) having another, more compact thrill coaster put in. Motocoaster stays but is rethemed to something Rivertown related.

I can't really think of anything else. Rivertown, K&BD, Steel Taipan and Giant Drop were done in the past 4 years, so they'd stay put. No point re-doing the Sky Voyager entrance as a new entrance won't entice people to ride if the ride is the exact same, not to mention there would be a thematic clash between the ride and Main Street. Maybe another flat in Ocean Parade or K&BD but that's about it.

[Themepark Enthusist]

I would love to see a contemporary take on TOT!  I can't help but to imagine what a new-get TOT would be like?

 

Even the station building is still there and with todays technology I'd be surprised if it only went straight out and back... 

I know it would never happen but it is defiantly an interesting idea.

 

 

[DaptoFunlandGuy]

On 31/10/2025 at 12:43 PM, Spectrumco said:

I've been working on this for a while and this topic seems like the best time to share it. I've put together a bit of a wish list mock-up masterplan for Ocean Parade and the Thunderbolt plot. 



Ocean Parade:
Bring the water back to Ocean Parade, start with running the bulldozer through Trolls Village and Thunderbolt's station. The space could be opened up to make room for a new battle boat attraction, theming it around fishing trawlers with a twist of fantasy - Imagine Kind Claw's tentacles rising from the depths, interacting with the boats. One of the trawlers could be suspended mid-air by a tentacle. The ride station is the newly advertised "K&B Brown Ocean Parade Boatworks" teased on the wall beside King Claw. This attraction would set itself apart from the Battle Boats at SW by incorporating themed rockwork tunnels, show scenes and a unique immersive experience.  While we're at it, put some tentacles breaking out of the ground down near SS and the dodgems, I think this would be a great way to finally give Ocean parade a cohesive tie from one end to the other. King Claw has arrived and is wreaking havoc through throughout the area. 

The area would also get a wharf theme (think the original Pacific Wharf at Disneyland or Mooloolaba Wharf for something more basic), with an accessible kids dry boat-themed playground (similar to the former SS Feathersword in Wiggles World) between the battle boat harbour and Gold Coaster's entry. The Kevil facade would be retained and repainted to resemble a fishmonger's loading dock, acting as the entry to a new hero attraction: a dark ride themed to the ocean depths. I'd love to see a river ride return to the coast or a trackless dark ride here with show scenes that bring guests on a journey through the underwater world, potentially with inspiration from Jora Vision's concept work for VinWonder:

Various facades that suit the wharf village theme line the park border and create a backdrop for the battle boat attraction. The boardwalk leads to the dark ride exit store which also acts as the internal gate between DW and WWW.

WWW:
Adjacent to the new internal gate, a sorely needed F&B outlet overlooks the new WWW expansion. This is themed as a tiki bar that draws on old-school Australiana (Tangaroa Terrace meets Banana Bender Pub).

A purpose-built BB house on the southern side of the property returns the DEC to dreamworld for year-round use. The mock-up shows the original BB house to scale complete with internal yard. Direct entry to the house from both parks for production as well as post-season tours. The DEC will become the live show auditorium for subsequent seasons.  BB Production facilities are all back-of-house.

 

The Shell is to be relocated to the Eastern side of the Thunderbolt site to allow for a new slide tower featuring a Boomerango, Tailspin+Rattler Fusion as well as a family raft slide. The mock-up features the Boomerango/Tailspin+Rattler compact layout to scale from Aqualantis and Gumbuya World.

The main expansion to WWW will see the long-awaited lazy river. The mock-up uses a scaled replica of the lazy river from Four Seasons Orlando Resort which features lush greenery and theming. This will be WWW's answer to Murrisippi Motors - rockwork, animals, lighting for night events, waterfalls and bridges across the river to secluded grassed areas and seating throughout the area. I believe if the theming is well done, this will blow Calypso Beach out of the water (pun intended). The area is a huge people eater and once gardens have grown in it will provide a great chill-out area to get out of the sun. 

 

 

Back of house:
The shed located to the east of the Thunderbolt plot will need to be relocated behind Kevil and some realignment of the BOH roads is required; however the majority of the back of house facilities will remain unchanged.

Sir - Bravo. This is such a well put together plan, makes use of existing facilities well, but removes those where impractical. I love the entire concept. I would like to see Dreamworld do all of this save for two things:

1. Relocating the shell is probably not viable. If you need to move it - just remove it. Consider a new picnic \ shaded seating area in the new zone, but don't restrict yourself to rebuilding the same thing you already had (and probably don't want to relocate it anyway - it looks pretty tired)
2. BB House - it can't go there. The proximity to Beattie road will be hell for sound recording. It's too close to a public space the production can't control - anyone who pleases to can park outside the house during production and just lay on their horn to make the footage entirely useless. 

On 01/11/2025 at 11:57 AM, TBoy said:

If only we got a Flying Dinosaur clone, I put the layout from USJ onto here and this shows that not much has to be removed for it, only a BOH building, Gamesite as well as the Trolls area and the Thunderbolt station...

I appreciate you calling it out that it won't happen, but when you're looking at things like this - consider what it is you're removing. The 'BOH building' you're removing is the Dreamworld ride maintenance facility. It's a significant space, and you'd be better off going around it than removing it. You don't need to stick a clone into a space at the cost of everything else - work with the space you've got. 

[TBoy]

3 hours ago, DaptoFunlandGuy said:

The 'BOH building' you're removing is the Dreamworld ride maintenance facility. It's a significant space, and you'd be better off going around it than removing it. You don't need to stick a clone into a space at the cost of everything else - work with the space you've got. 

In that scenario the building would be relocated next to the double helix and lift hill - Dreamworld have a bit more space to move things around than Village, and a positive for logistics is it would be a bit closer to the park than it is now.

All part of my imagination though and it won't happen as much as I would like it to. I do feel, as I said above - a smaller, less expensive thrill coaster would work there, potentially also using some of the Gold Coaster plot and station if it gets too expensive to maintain. 

Edited 17 hours ago by TBoy

[Prequel]

I think Dreamworld needs another major thrill coaster, maybe something more airtime focused. 
I don't know much longer they can keep Gold Coaster going for, but after Steel Taipan, there really isn't much else on the coaster side. 

I would love to see an RMC personally. But really anything I would be happy about. 

I don't think they should remove moto coaster completely, as much as it's a bit awkward. I think they should just retheme the ride completely, renovate the station, non-prototype trains (regular bike ones), and just make it a lot prettier. Sure it will be a boring coaster, but it will be comfortable, and not everyone who is slightly larger will be turned away. 

That's really all that I think needs to be done immediately. I think the family's already have so much to do at the park, that I think they can focus on more thrilling attractions. 

[wikiverse]

I used to think that the best option for motocoaster would be a re-theme, but my opinion has shifted firmly to outright removal. 

The cost of new trains and new theming would be so high that it would be better to sell the nearly 20 year old ride and put all of that money toward a better ride(s) in that area. 

A better ride with immersive theming will have a better ROI, even if it costs more.  Rivertown sold passes and draws pass-holders back.  King Claw will sell passes.  Putting lipstick on the motocoaster pig is a lot of money for a 'boring' filler ride. It won't sell day passes or annual passes and the ride will likely need replacing within the next 5-10 years anyway.