HandsyGruber

Seat size on Hypercoaster

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1 hour ago, AlexB said:

^Agreed and can give a perfect example - Silver Bullet at Knott's is a B&M custom invert, but the seat sizing was quite tight for me the last time I went... whereas most everything else we did wasn't a problem.

Ever been to Japan? I'm not a huge dude, but I'm a short guy with a big belly. The restraints in Japan hated me.

I was always like one click away from being too large for basically every coaster in Japan. I'd have the ride ops jumping on my restraint to push it down.

Weirdly enough my mate who is much taller than me and basically the same weight was perfectly.

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I had an experience at SW on Friday night.   As I queued for Storm Coaster the male in front of me was a very large gentleman.  I thought to myself there is no way this guy is going to fit under the restraints.  It was easy to see.  

When he went to get into the seat the ride attendant told him to lift his stomach and she would lower the restraint as he sat.  It was like synchronised swimming at a whole new level.  About half way during this delicate procedure the attendant realised it was never going to work.   She kindly told him he would not be able to ride and he would have to get off.  I could see the embarrassment rush over his face.  He was embarrassed and flustered and wanted to get out of there as quickly as possible. 

For a large man he moved extremely fast and before the attendant could assist him off he was halfway out.  He stepped onto the side of the wet boat to get out and lost his footing and fell.  He landed flat on his face on the loading platform.  The staff rushed around him and helped he back up.

I thought this could have all been avoided if as he entered the queue the attendant that checks your height told him he probably wasn’t going to fit.  I could see it and I have never loaded somebody onto a ride. 

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Unlike a person's height or physical disability (like plaster cast \ amputation \ prosthetic etc) it'd be an extremely dangerous area for the cast member to wade in on - people tend to get very defensive if someone suggests that they're "too fat". best to let them try if they've come this far, and try all you can to help them do it.

i've seen them do the 'belly lift' procedure before, and almost always successfully. I've also seen the very forceful actions on restraints to just get them one more click.

i think it's good that cast members try everything they can to get you on the ride within safety limits... but perhaps some caution is needed when someone wants to disembark a little prematurely!!!

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55 minutes ago, AlexB said:

i've seen them do the 'belly lift' procedure before, and almost always successfully. I've also seen the very forceful actions on restraints to just get them one more click.

I wonder if a belly lift is procedure or has been passed on from one attendant to another.

55 minutes ago, AlexB said:

i think it's good that cast members try everything they can to get you on the ride within safety limits...

I know of two cases (Perilous Plunge & Texas Giant) where the cast member has thought they had secured an overweight guest within the safety limits and both fell out of the restraints to their deaths.

Perilous Plunge -

The seat belt was buckled and the lap bar was down, though they might not have been in an optimal position (the controls did show it was locked and when it returned empty it was still in the lock position.

Neither manufacturer Intamin nor Knott's had written instructions for ride operators handling passengers whose physical characteristics might threaten their safety.

After the Texas Giant it was discussed that:

“Clearly, the takeaway from the Texas Giant incident was that one size fits all doesn’t work anymore,” he said. “There are way too many body sizes and types out there to go with a single point-of-failure restraint system.”

The thing that is keeping me up at night is rides have systems to keep us safe but what is in place to guarantee a lap bar is indeed sitting on your lap and not your stomach.

As shown in the above cases the ride control system only knows if the lap bar is down far enough.  What it doesn’t know is what part of your body it’s holding down. 

 

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With the Hypercoaster...  Pushing down on the tubing that comes around and into the sides of the lap restraint gives you more leverage over the harness system...

As someone who has been too large for almost every ride in the gold coast theme parks...  You go in knowing there is the possibility that you may not fit...  Is it embarrassing as hell when it happens?  Yes...  But if you can remember that it is for your own safety that you cannot ride and not an attack on you as a person it's not nearly as bad...

In my case it was due to medications, surgery and 4 months of bed rest (lack of being able to exercise) that I went from 90kg up to 140kg...  It took me 5 years to be able to once again fit into every ride at MW but I'll be damned if on every trip to the park I didn't check to see how close I was to being able to ride and celebrated that little bit when I could add a ride back into my trips...  But I always requested to be placed towards the back of the ride in case I had to disembark due to harness not being able to close...

 

 

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17 hours ago, MaxxTheMonster said:

In my case it was due to medications, surgery and 4 months of bed rest (lack of being able to exercise) that I went from 90kg up to 140kg...  It took me 5 years to be able to once again fit into every ride at MW but I'll be damned if on every trip to the park I didn't check to see how close I was to being able to ride and celebrated that little bit when I could add a ride back into my trips...  But I always requested to be placed towards the back of the ride in case I had to disembark due to harness not being able to close...

 

 

Amazing job on bringing your weight back down mate, congratulations!

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