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What makes it a 0% chance of something happening though?

I always thought the best comparison was Green Lantern Versus Abyss: For what its worth, this is probably the best i could come up with: DCR vs Leviathan – High Tier Coasters SE vs ST – Large Launches MCMC vs JR – Straddle Coasters GC vs Big Dipper – In effect comparing the old with its replacement (In the day you probably would have done GC vs Arkham or GC vs Sea Viper) Scenic Railway vs Wild Mouse – Wooden Classics Surfrider vs Project Zero – Compact shuttles Bug Run vs Little nipper – Small Family Coasters Sapphire speedster vs Mining Race Coaster – Medium Family Coasters Boomerang vs Road Runner – Larger Family Coasters Speedy Beetle Vs Crazy Coaster - SBFs TNT vs Escape From Madagascar – SFCs Dragon Express Vs Boating School Blast – Zamperla ST80 Abyss Vs Green Lantern – 8 seaters, Beyond Vertical Scooby vs Dingo Racer – Steel Mice, but a poor comparison. Still leaves Storm and the thing at Green Valley Farm unaccounted for.

Whys is it completely different?

So what about Anaconda / Dragon Mountain / Tennessee Tornado?

Where does it say that?

Who says? RCDB lists them all as a "Custom Looping Coaster" https://rcdb.com/r.htm?ot=2&mo=8301 You cant just say "GC is the tallest, but actually its not because I'm arbitrarily disqualifying all comparable rides" 🤡

Kenny and Belinda 3D Sculpts 😍

I would have thought you'd just do a random draw of coasters, and it is what it is, eg could be TNT versus Green Lantern. Well I want to argue because there are definitely people that would like Leviathan over DCR. Heck there are people that like Superman more than DCR which is totally fair too.

See I had it in my head it would have been DCR versus Leviathan since they are both fairly fast paced / newish airtime machines and in the same league. Obviously Leviathan is going to win this...

Huh? Is ABC not IP?

What's a MARC Funhouse?

Paint them pink and make them "Prawns on the Barbie" The kind of look like Plankton as well.

Doesn't the Gold Coast already have a flying theatre attraction at Dreamworld? This is a general comment, I dont mind if parks get default attractions, eg if a water park puts in a lazy river or some tube rides, yeah cool you kind of expect that at a water park. Or if a dry park adds some dodgems or a disko as some filler. But for major stuff....Hmm not sure If i'd get excited for another flying theatre, since all it would be is a different film and DW already runs different films. Or a halfpipe at LPS. We already know it had heaps of downtime at WnW, and is finally getting relocated. But it's still just an 'okay' ride, not sure if we need a 2nd lol. Overall the above post is pretty much on point though.

Can you please stop derailing every thread. This is a thread about the current reliability of Leviathan, (given people are often travelling a long distance to try the new ride etc) Nobody cares about your "twitter feed" of breakdowns on a different ride at a different park.

Looks amazing, but onboard it feels like Doomsday if it were on a turntable. The main gondola of seats just loops and loops in one direction, and then so does every other ring. So you expect the ride to be full of really random movements like one of these. But in reality it feels a bit repetitive and you're just looping and looping, and oh look we are still looping but now I'm on my side. I've heard SFOT is taking theirs out already

It burnt down. https://www.ausleisure.com.au/news/adventure-world-to-sue-fireworks-company-over-fire-that-destroyed-landmark/

FWIW a few parks seem to have either a wave swinger or a carousel right in the main entrance. Cedar Point and Phantasialand and Californias Great America are a couple of prime examples. In my experience a lot of people tend to pass up these rides in the morning because they are too preoccupied heading to the big rides, and then forget to ride it later because it tends to be the main entrance of a park is in effect a dead end that you dont usually go back to. I think the DW one will do alright because the layout of DW is such that you tend to pass the main entry area often anyway throughout the day.

I just don't think Australia has a whole lot of meaningful comparisons. We often only have one of everything so it end up being shoehorned.

Why is it a people keep saying that because motocoaster and jet rescue had their trains repainted, that means they are new?

Just think guys, we still have Kingda Ka.

It literally said it was Buccaneer Bay on the archived website anyhow.

Liseberg https://www.parkz.com.au/attraction/liseberg This is the last remaining park I had to write up from my Scandinavian trip. Liseberg is a bucket list park for me, and it sure lives up to its reputation. It’s located in the nice city of Gothenburg. You can get there in about 3 hours from either Stockholm or Copenhagen. I was in the city early enough to take a stroll around the CBD and just walk a couple of km to the park (Though multiple tram lines go to the park too). (The spherical building is part of a museum next door) Even had time to do a lap around the outside of the park to gaze longingly at Balder, which was closed for my visit for track replacement. Was ready at the entrance for opening time, and had the app on my phone to take advantage of the virtual queueing system. Was quite a fairly day though. I was there from 10am till 11pm and did plenty of rides, waits often ranged from 20-60 mins. I’ll talk a bit about the park itself at the end of the report, but here are the rides. Helix Much Like other Macks such as DC Rivals, it’s an excellent, well rounded ride that combines lots of cool things. 7 inverisions, 3 really good airtime hills, a couple of launches, and it’s hillside location means you make some quite large drops and dives. And overall it’s well paced. In some ways though it represents the end of an era. If you’ve ridden a newer RMC, Intamin or Vekoma you’ll know how these days coasters are a bit more funky and dynamic, owing to advances in engineering. On the other hand Helix is very ‘traditional” (Like a good B&M), it’s all conventional elements done well, but I think now the coaster world has evolved, and something like Taiga is the way things are done now. Starts off with a drop out of the station, corkscrew and a bit of a drawn out turn. Theres a decent launch straight into a corkscrew, then it really picks up with a dive down the hill, airtime, another dive, a zero g roll, another airtime hill, and helix, all woven amongst other rides. That in itself would be a decent layout, but a 2nd launch sends you into an inverted top hat, another big dive, airtime hill. At this point the ride peters out a bit, with series of uphill S turns, and concludes with a heartline roll, but it’s nowhere near as agressive as the one on Steel Taipan. The queue is a sight to behold. The design brief was clearly “Make queuing an architectural experience”. EDM in the queue line pumps up the atmosphere a bit. Uppswinget S&S Screamin Swing. This is a ride that seems quite common overseas, but never quite made it to Australia. A shame because they are excellent. You get the huge swings of something like a Gyro Swing, but less nauseating, just great moments of airtime over and over. The position perched over the edge of a hill made it even better. AtmosFear A gyro drop without the gyro, and it was at a weird point in time where intamin was using their superman/surfrider type seats on drop rides. The queue line had a cool theme, sort of like a power station or nuclear reactor. What set this one apart was the addition of VR. This one didn’t seem to slow things down too much, I guess because it's only moving up and down, so less difficult to sync the ride movement. Once you are seated they just go around and offer a headset during the checking. Of course I gave it a go. Spoiler: it is like you are in an underground scientific research lab, and are being lifted up past this huge particle accelerator, as you reach the top, a wormhole forms and the machine begins to break apart, bits get sucked in, aliens come out and they try to attach to your face, but right as you are about to get eaten you drop. A bit of a freaky experience. As you are being lifted up you are so preoccupied with the footage that you forget how high you are, and it’s not until you start feeling the breeze at the top of the tower and the sun on your forehead that you realise “oh geez, im 100m in the air wearing effectively a blindfold” AeroSpin TailSpin crossed with Trident sums this one up. Seemed quite easy to get a continuous spin going, and again the hilltop location made for some great views. Lisebergbanan This one is excellent, so I did a few rides. It’s a terrain coaster by Schwarzkopf, and for such an old ride it runs very smooth. And operation are excellent too, with several trains pumping guests through. Loved the attention to detail in the queue and station, it was actually themed like a train station, right down to the daggy 50s terrazzo floors. The ride maintains a great pace from start to finish, with quite a spread out layout that you really cant get a full picture of from any one vantage point. The best part is where you complete 3 large circular drops in a row, like a enormous tilted helix, where you would keep lapping around uppswinget. Eventually the track peels away with more curves and helixes through the trees, concluding with a speedy finale parallel to the main park walkway. Onboard you got some glimpses of the custom family boomerang they are building too. Valkyria I love dive coasters and this is a particularly good one. One of the reasons they are great is they are so re-ridable, they aren’t’ too forceful, and the drop is fun. Couple this with a single rider line and I think this ended up being my most ridden attraction. The only drawback of the single rider queue is you virtually always end up seated on the right as you are the last in the row, so I did use standby once to get a left hand ride. The theming is fantastic, with the station even having a projection of a shadow of a valkyrie flying around, and a custom soundtrack that was dramatic viking music. From the station you head up a 50m lift hill, around a turn, and perch on the edge of a drop. Shortly thereafter you are released, drop into a tunnel, emerge into an immelman, then make a hard overbanked turn with a great near miss with the lift structure. From there you do a bit of a figure 8, with a zero g roll and a heartline roll on the way. This part is over a creek running through the park, and you get a fair bit of hangtime, making for an interesting experience. FlumeRide Most flumes seem to follow a format of float along, lift, medium drop, float along, lift, big drop, the end. The one at Liseberg was somewhat unique, owing to the large hillside. A huge lift takes you right to the top of the hill. then there is a long floaty section that passes over and under a few other rides, including very closely to Lisebergbanan, so dont stand up! But the finale is great, because all the final drops come in quick succession. You do a drop, splash down and lose a bit of speed and then before you know it there's another big drop. Spokhotellet Gasten This can be low capacity, so i queued virtually for it. It was quite a long horror maze through an old hotel. The jump scares from the actors are what you’d expect, though this one has really well done and elaborate rooms, through various hotel scenes that totally are not inspired by TOT at Disneysea 😛 Mechanica Many years ago I did Bling at Blackpool and thought it was okay, and all these years on the ride experience is still just as meh. The arm moves in a big slow loop, and you are seated on flipping rows of seats that are arranged in a fan shape, much like a top scan. But because all the rotations are so steady you don't really flip much and it just ends up being a whole lot of being high in the air awkwardly sideways. Underlandet Underlandet was a fun kids dark ride where you go through the underground world of the Liseberg rabbits. Starts of with a faux lift ride into an “underground” loading station. Bright and colourful and quite well executed. There was a bit of narrative of the villain (Who resembled a magician crossed with Robbie Rotten crossed with Oddwald) sneaking around trying to steal carrots but getting hurt in the process. The ride actually goes up and downhill over a couple of levels too so its more substantial than you'd expect. Funniest part was a scene with various rabbit animatronics sitting on thunderbox toilets, with containers below labelled “compost:” Kaninslandbanan Overhead pedal car thing, that I mostly rode to get some decent overhead photos. Carried the theme of the kids zone of “Rabbits making crazy inventions to grow and process carrots”. I quite like how they had made the ride maintenance bay a feature and themed it like a wacky workshop. Lisebergshjulet One of those big air conditioned ferris wheels like the one at Southbank. Was ok but it was right on the edge of the park so it wasnt necessarily the best for park photos. Good views to the city center of Gothenburg though! Liseberg Gardens Didn’t know this existed till I visited. A whole corner of the park is just a nice botanic garden, much like at Alton or Tivoli, with pleasant trails winding down the hillside, and even an old windmill. Stampbanan Tiny kids coaster near identical to the baby shark one at Luna Park Sydney Rabalder A bigger family coaster the same as the Chicken themed one at Djurs Sommerland. The station had some crazy invention theming, including a dripping bucket on the way into the station. Kallerado One of the best rapids I have done. Really nice leafy setting, and plenty of Colorado theming too. The rapids were dynamic, with quite powerful rapids, plenty of fountains, and heaps of boats, to the point that on the open water sections sometimes boats would bump and overtake each other. Clearly popular with the locals too, it had a huge queue, but thankfully I had a virtual queue pass. Jukebox Octopus ride, but with a very creative theme, so just had to give it a go. (Plus octopii are fun for a spin and spew) Krilstallsalongen Quite a short mirror maze, with a few illusion rooms along the way. What i liked is that the front of the attraction was window, so you could stand outside and watch this happening: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nQjlipMs4cc Skepp o Skoj I’ve done plenty of car rides, but never a boat ride. You pilot a little electric boat along a course, but it felt like the steering has huge lag, so you ended up just bumping off the walls on the way through. Tempus Finally got to ride one of these newfangled Zamperla Nebulaz. I reckon every park needs one, right level of intensity for a family ride, bit of speed, bit of tummy tickling airtime, but it’s so hypnotic to watch. The cycle seemed to be that they would load one half, run it for a bit, stop with you at the top and load the other half, run it a little more, then you’d get off and the cycle repeats. I quite liked the aesthetic of this whole area. Yes its just flat rides, but it was so classy. Come to think of it, it’s just like the grand exposition are at Sliver Dollar City. So there you have it, 20 different attractions in 13 hours. I wouldn’t have minded riding the Loke gyro swing, given how good its counterpart Tigeren was at Djurs Sommerland, and that was the only major thing I didn’t ride. The park is one of the best out there, everything is such high quality. Even generic rides had really quite ornate booths and signage. The dining options were great, The buildings were nice. Operations were good. The virtual queue system wasn’t oversubscribed so lines kept moving despite big crowds. They even had some themed areas, eg the Viking zone, the Port Zone, the 50s zone, Kaninlandet, Luna Park etc. I reckon this is something they could lean into a bit more.. Have a look at the attractions and give everything a themed zone. Right now it's half traditional amusment park, half theme park. In terms of what the park needs, well it has such a complete lineup already. Perhaps an immersive indoor coaster or a dark ride for older audiences would be good. There’s no shortage of flats or water rides.... Photos here https://www.parkz.com.au/search/photos/location/liseberg

This isn't Universal Studios Hollywood.

Yeah, like if you say something tastes like crap, you don't need to have.....

As I recall it both the old and new iterations were called Buccaneer Bay, and it wasn't until they got the mini tornado that it was renamed Wet n Wild Junior. https://web.archive.org/web/20040715085535/http://www.wetnwild.com.au/visitor_info/the_rides.cfm